Ish is getting real...

Right here...
I didn't say it. That is a quote from an article and it is factual given the time frame that it was written. The link is just below the article (the first link) to the entire article which is dated May 29, 2015. I only posted an excerpt from the article. The entire article is giving proof as to why your beloved VOX is such a worthless source. Good grief.

The next two links after that, point out more tripe and falsehoods from VOX.

Okay, you aren't drunk, you haven't hit your head, so it must be that you just have no reading or comprehension skills whatsoever then and apparently you cannot even think or reason either. I'm done wasting any more of my time with you. Go find something to vacuum or another thread to troll.
 
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Seggy that article came up on another forum that Ryan, Hacker, and I are all on. It also features a host of guys who fly fighters as well and it was pretty much chewed apart.

Not that there aren't good parts too it but there are so many mistakes and misconceptions it looses all credibility.


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Seggy that article came up on another forum that Ryan, Hacker, and I are all on. It also features a host of guys who fly fighters as well and it was pretty much chewed apart.

Not that there aren't good parts too it but there are so many mistakes and misconceptions it looses all credibility.


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That is fine, if anything it shows that this is a much more complex situation than 'Turkey shoots down Russian airplanes!'
 
Interesting that Turkey claimed the Russian jet flew over their airspace and therefore felt justified in shooting it down in Syrian airspace, yet they took it upon themselves to move hundreds of troops and tanks just over a week and a half ago, across the border into Iraq. Haider al-Abadi gave them 48 hours to beat feet out of his country, but they have not. Iraq considers this action a breach of its own sovereignty and Baghdag has now appealed to the U.N. Security Council.

Now we see the pulling back of our AF from Turkey just after the Washington powers that be, have been requesting that Turkey drag it's collective ass back over the border from Iraq.

Meanwhile, Putin has stated that he sees no possible improvement in relations with Turkey/Erdoğan and once again affirmed his commitment to Syria.

Washington has also offered assets to Iraq, which they have refused.......for the moment.

The chess game continues.
 
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