AnImbroglio
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You graduated college to make $12,000 a year? Why? I make more than that as a bartender. Like, double that. They pay $1000/month for CFI?
Is this normal?
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You graduated college to make $12,000 a year? Why? I make more than that as a bartender. Like, double that. They pay $1000/month for CFI?
From my TOL about training in OKC:
"Position: Air Traffic Control Specialist, FG-2152-01
Salary: $20,725 per annum, which includes 18.16% locality
Option: Terminal
Type of Appointment: Excepted Appointment NTE 13 months; full-time, temporary"
Down the page about my facility:
"Position: Air Traffic Control Specialist, AT-2152-HC
Type of Appointment: Excepted-Conditional; full-time, permanent.
Salary: $39,820 per annum, which includes 18.16% locality"
If you've already received a TOL, check it out. The only difference between a COLA and Locality, is that COLA is tax free whereas Locality is taxable. Per Diem is also tax free.
Yes, your pay is based on the facility you will be going to. I got an extra 18ish% because I was headed to ATL when I was in OKC, so I made more in OKC than my classmates who were headed to Billings or CLT, MEM, etc. Didn't add up to much there, but does now.
So in total, you get your base pay (like right at $9.50/10 an hour plus locality) and the per diem of $80ish per day. So you actually make more at OKC than when you first get to your facility.
Bernoulli Fan
Controller
Only the truly dedicated (to Ramen) shall survive to become shiny jet pilots.
ATCJefe
New Member
Where is this calculator you speak of??
greg1016
Trustworthy Source
I think the calculator is on that other site, and I think you have to be a paid member to use it. But there is a pay scale on the main ATC forum here, just take the lowest base pay and multiply it by 1.x with x=locality percentage (with no decimal). If your locality pay is 21.52% then take base pay * 1.2152 = pay with locality. The pay scale here may not include pay at the academy.
pd82
New Member
Yeah, sorry. It's on stuckmic. It used to be available to everyone. Now it's only for paid members
swinte00
Well-Known Member
Depends on who you ask. I got my hometown, so I'm certainly not complaining.
:yeahthat:
jermscentral
Well-Known Member
They were able to do that before the FAA started using a standard HR company to run the hiring process. The selection panel is comprised of many of the facility managers, but just because you know them doesn't necessarily mean you will be selected by them. It never hurts to talk to them, though, and to get your name in front of them. I talked to the ATMs in the two places I wanted to go (St. Louis and Nashville). I got one of the 5 St. Louis area facilities. Now, whether that had to do with the fact that I talked to him or if Kansas City/Springfield didn't have any openings and I was the only one that selected MO as my primary preference. In any case, I took one of the last positions in the STL area that wasn't already flooded with trainees.
Tangodelta29
Well-Known Member
Does the controller decide whether they work a center or tracon position or if they are IN a tower?
Say I wanted to work in a tower but wasn't really up for Center ops?
Say I wanted to work in a tower but wasn't really up for Center ops?
greg1016
Trustworthy Source
Since they upgraded the system, when you get your geo prefs you can choose between center only, tower only, or both. I am not sure if TRACON falls under center or tower. Also, everyone wants tower, so if you choose tower only you are less likely to get picked, I wouldn't recommend it.
PantherFlyer13
New Member
I remember getting an email that offered TERMINAL ONLY, ENROUTE ONLY, and BOTH. The TERMINAL option includes all available positions in TRACON's and TOWER's within the states that you select in your geographic preferences. The ENROUTE option simply limits your choices to Level 12 ARTCC's. Everyone has their own goal in mind or best idea for themselves of which is best for them, so to each his or her own.
FWIW, I opted to go TERMINAL-ONLY, picked Michigan and Florida as my specific two geographic preferences, and in the comments section wrote that I would like to live in the Detroit metro area. I was selected for Detroit TRACON.
-Panther
ATCJefe
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I didn't know anyone lived in Detroit anymore... :joke:
