Is it OK to take pre workout supplements?

djh1007

Flying Squirrel Trainee
Hey Dr Fored,

Recently I have returned to the gym after a year or so off, and want to use pre workout supplements again to help me energize and to aid in recovery.

I have recently started working 135 charter, and we are subject to random drug testing. I do not want to take anything that would jeopardize my employment.

I would like to take Creatine as well as Nitrox Oxide booster pre workout supplements.

Specifially, I would like to take http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bsn/xplode.html NOXplode.

I was planning on ordering some tonight, but figured I would hold off, and do some research it just to be safe.

Thanks!
 
zLOdmuK
Thank you for the answer. What about nitric oxide boosters in general?

Here is a list of the ingredients:
 
I would steer clear of any workout supplements because they can be loaded with cocaine, heroine, methamphetamines and sometime opiates which could be risky if you get drug tested. Also, Nitrox Oxide contains Danshen Extract, which is basically marijuana. How the FDA allows people to take this stuff is a mystery to me!

Seriously though, it's just vitamins and caffeine. You're fine. In my opinion, White Flood by Controlled Labs is the best pre-workout formula around. It's 25 bucks off Amazon and gives you a bunch of energy without any caffeine crash.
 
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I know you need to be careful with creatine because apparently it's a masking agent, so while it's not banned it could raise some eyebrows and they may want to test you again. At least that's what I've been told.
 
Whey Protein, almond milk, bananas in a nutribullet is what I have been doing for a while. If I do not have time to do that I will eat a bagel with peanut butter.
 
I've taken NO xplode and jackd in the past and never had a problem with drug testing. IIRC employers are looking for things like marijuana, molly, heroine, cocaine, etc...the kind of substances people go to jail over.
 
Whey Protein, almond milk, bananas in a nutribullet is what I have been doing for a while. If I do not have time to do that I will eat a bagel with peanut butter.

Try protein, almondmilk, and a big ol scoop of creamy peanut butter, it actually mixes up well. Not sure if that's a great preworkout though, good post!
 
Try protein, almondmilk, and a big ol scoop of creamy peanut butter, it actually mixes up well. Not sure if that's a great preworkout though, good post!

I have tried that and its very good! Problem is I have a peanut butter addiction. I try to cut back as much as I can.

To the OP, When I started working out on a regular basis I would research and try supplements all the time. I did not like the way my body reacted to most of them. I think just some whey protein and a little carb is the best food you can eat before and after a workout.

I guess it all depends on your goal though. If you are wanting to build a ton of mass that probably wont work out for you. I just try to stay lean, fit and athletic. I don't care about the big muscles or six pack so it works for me.

I buy all my protein at costco. Stay away from places that will try to up-sale you on every supplement. As long as it is 100% whey protein, that's all you need.
 
Thanks for the replies.

Just to clarify, I'm not looking for a magic pill or supplement. Before I got fat and lazy, I was deadlifting 4 plates, squatting 3, and benching 2. I know that hard work and a clean diet trump everything.

I just wanted to make sure that my energy booster wouldn't cause me any trouble on drug tests. I had read about previous versions of Nitric Oxide boosters causing people to falsely test positive for methamphetamines, something about 1-3 dimethyl.
 
Thanks for the replies.

Just to clarify, I'm not looking for a magic pill or supplement. Before I got fat and lazy, I was deadlifting 4 plates, squatting 3, and benching 2. I know that hard work and a clean diet trump everything.

I just wanted to make sure that my energy booster wouldn't cause me any trouble on drug tests. I had read about previous versions of Nitric Oxide boosters causing people to falsely test positive for methamphetamines, something about 1-3 dimethyl.
I lift 4 plates at the buffet!
 
Post workout, you want to get nutrients in the blood stream as fast as possible to begin the repair/recovery process. If possible, try to drink or eat your post workout snack or meal as soon as possible after completing exercise to obtain the most benefit from your workout. If you can't get your meal or snack in after the workout right away, at least don't wait any longer than 45 minutes. To shift the body from a catabolic to anabolic state (to build new tissue and repair cellular damage) after a workout, a high GI (Glycemic Index) carbohydrate works extremely well to increase glucose and insulin reponse that's necessary to shift states. A 4 to 1 ratio of carbohydrates to protein has been shown to provide good benefits post workout. Roughly 20g of protein is needed post workout, so to maintain the 4 to 1 ratio, we would need around 80g of carbohydrates. The most easily digestible protein is whey protein. Mixing 20g of whey with a high GI carb (of roughly 80g of carbs that is) would do well. People seem to overdue it on the protein thinking they'll provide a ton of recovery, when the carbs are actually equally important to put the body in the anabolic state, and it takes more carbs than they usually imagine. The carbs are the sparker for the shift to recovery, and the protein can be thought of as the entity that helps repair the tissue. The carbohydrates not only spark glucose and insulin reponse highly, but also helps replenish the stored glucose in the muscles and liver (called glycogen) that have been depleted. With that said, some people like to use supplements and others use food. If you tend to use whey protein for your protein requirements after a workout and due to its easily digestile nature, you can use a sports drink (like Gatorade, accelerate, etc.) to get your carb ratio, or use a High GI fruit, or other high GI foods like potatoes, pasta, bagels, white bread, etc. Just remember to get the ratio of carbs to protein down, which is 4 to 1. Also, be sure to keep the post workout meal or snack low in fiber and low in fat simply because that will allow the blood sugar and insulin to spike after the workout to aid in the recovery process. When too much fat and fiber are added, it slows down the digestion process and the total GI index of foods mixed in the stomach will be altered in comparison to what they were if they were to be had alone. So, peanut butter isn't a good choice to mix into a drink after a workout.

Now, all this post workout info. is pretty much the opposite what you would want your meals to be. So, any of your normal meals of the day (not post workout) should contain fiber, healthy fats, lean proteins, and low to medium GI carbohydrates because this helps regulate blood sugar better, provides good nutrients, and a better feeling of satiety.

In addition, I personally would stay away from the supplements like NOXplode because it really hasn't had much proof that NO works yet, and supplement companies are not regulated lIke they should be, so some weird stuff can be in the product that may not be the safest long term. A solid workout program properly organized and proper nutritional program will get you more than far with your health and fitness goals.
 
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This guy doesn't take pre workouts for any kind of measurable gains. He takes them for the incredible rush of energy, intensity, and focus they provide which can make for a good workout which in turn can make for good gains.

There's nothing better than when your pre workout kicks in and your skin starts tingling. That's the time to turn up the rage music and get to work.

I too am pretty interested in this discussion because I don't take them simply because of the drug test issue.
 
Groan
Eat well. Supplements are largely a waste of money.

An argument could be made for creatine, maybe. Simply because it is so cheap. Other than that, eat a chicken breast or two, drink some water and find a carrot to munch on.
 
Started this about a month back:

A good morning for me is a couple eggs, toast, some form of fried potato- usually slices, and a little medley of sauteed fruits and veggies like broccoli, cherub tomatoes, avocado, spinach, and mushrooms. An hour or so later a smoothie with Almond milk, a couple tablespoons of oats, tablespoon of greek yogurt, half a banana, small handful of frozen strawberries, blueberries, and raspberries. One to two hours after that I go workout.

In the fridge I have a pitcher full of water plus strawberries, kiwi, and oranges. I mix a tall glass of that with whey protein immediately post workout. Also I try to eat an apple. The water by itself is also good for quenching my thirst throughout the day.

Through the rest of the day its pasta or rice, fish or chicken usually, and a salad. Also cereal. At the end of the night right before sleep I have another scoop of protein with a glass of milk.
 
Natural energy boosters are best. The big bottles of stuff are overused. I don't mind having a little caffeine or sugar to help me along at the beginning, but if I'm taking supplements to boost my energy, it has a distinct potential to mask the body's natural signals. If you are super low on energy- THERE IS A REASON FOR THAT. Many injuries occur partly because the body is under rested. Energy and power supplements allow us to "hit the snooze button" on the body's rest alarm. This is not a good regular practice.

In my opinion, the supplement industry exists only because most of us don't understand our potential and what limits actually exist. There exist mainly 2 types of people in the lifting world. There are those who work way too hard for the results they are looking for. And there are those who don't work hard enough. The few who are in between are actually taking notes, whether mentally or literally, and have figured out the minimum amount of work they need to do to get what they want. Supplements like Creatine are a perfect example of people not understanding their needs. I can think of only a few types of athletes who would actually need something like that, and they all have people who assist them with their routine, because they are elite athletes. And the dosage amount that is appropriate should be much, much less than the label states.

Rest
Water
Proper nutrition
Consistency

That's what 99% of us need...unless you just like to do extra credit and take supplements that do unnatural things to your body. To that, I ask "why??" How does that method out perform a slightly more natural method.
 
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