Is it even worth mentioning?
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ackeight
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screw that. I'd rather fly during mid morning till early afternoon. But that is just a dream.
Hell, we've got one in BUF that's like that.
...but c'mon...it's friggin Buffalo. FXE on base pay? Eh...
1-6 or so would be great for me....get off of work just in time for the 1st tee time.
Preferably if we could do something checking in at 1, out at 4 Monday and Thursday...a Baron YNG-ERI-YNG. I'd be living the good life.
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ackeight
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Why is that? I have a 12+ hr duty day from 8-8 and it sucks. Hard to get good sleep with the sun already up. I could do a 12 hr DAY, but not night. I'm just happy that I have an 8hr night now.
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ackeight
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Ya that is a good schedule. I wouldn't complain about that. My new schedule is 20:45-03:45 M-F. I'm liking the looks of that. Like you said, setting up for easier daytime weekends.
mninstructor
Well-Known Member
Ian, that run blocks slightly more than bid, good schedule though. LEW sucks, but winter's almost over.
I know - I've floated it before on a holiday where the LEW courier was an hour late.
mninstructor
Well-Known Member
Courier is normally good, but just wait till its snowing and the plow crew waits till the morning, there isn't any de ice, the app sucks (higher than normal mins), there isn't a bathroom open, I could go on.....
Still, the money/time sched is nice.
Still, the money/time sched is nice.
Only through time and research can one get a "sense" of the big picture. I barely have a glimpse of this pictue, but have found the freight discussion very enlightening. As a low-time, near 40 year old pilot considering a career change, this line of conversation has been most interesting. At my "advanced" age, I am not really interested in changing companies sevral more times. I would love to find a job with good QOL and reasonable pay, and STAY there. Airnet has been on my radar screen for years, actually since my comm/inst/ME checkride. A pregnant girlfriend (now my wife and mother of three more) and other financial concerns swayed me to not finish my cfi, and the flying became a part-time just-for-fun deal.
Over the past few months, it has occurred to me that over the remaining 25 or so years I have left to work, it might actually be possible to do something I have always loved (fly) and not have to sell the kids to do it.
I know I need some time, and hey, the current "low hours" hiring thing may be short lived in any event...but I am looking at it seriously for the first time in a long time. Maybe SIC'ing and a "five year progression" in light of a "new career" wouldn't be so bad. After long-haul trucking for 750,000 miles, I have experienced the night time gig, and have a healthy respect for you guys who fly in that environment, wx and all. Keep putting the word out there...you never know who you might be helping.
As for me, I'm the guy blowing the dust off my aviation library, and trying to explain to a local MEI why I want to fly some approaches at night when their Seneca is usually tucked in and dreaming about some green mountain soft-field.....
You guys are awesome, and the love of your craft is contagious.
"Just because I am paranoid does not mean that everyone isn't out to get me"
Over the past few months, it has occurred to me that over the remaining 25 or so years I have left to work, it might actually be possible to do something I have always loved (fly) and not have to sell the kids to do it.
I know I need some time, and hey, the current "low hours" hiring thing may be short lived in any event...but I am looking at it seriously for the first time in a long time. Maybe SIC'ing and a "five year progression" in light of a "new career" wouldn't be so bad. After long-haul trucking for 750,000 miles, I have experienced the night time gig, and have a healthy respect for you guys who fly in that environment, wx and all. Keep putting the word out there...you never know who you might be helping.
As for me, I'm the guy blowing the dust off my aviation library, and trying to explain to a local MEI why I want to fly some approaches at night when their Seneca is usually tucked in and dreaming about some green mountain soft-field.....
You guys are awesome, and the love of your craft is contagious.
"Just because I am paranoid does not mean that everyone isn't out to get me"
N1ksa
New Member
Just to add my $.02 to the mix.
Being a complete FNG, I've spent about a year lurking around the forums before I joined up and actually started posting and throwing some questions out there. Using the search function on the forums has answered nearly every question I have had so far. I'm 26 and a career changer in the process. I have thought about this long enough and am making my dreams come true. Sure I'll admit it, initially I was "oh I want to be a pilot" and all you think about then is the airlines. Personally I was intro'd to freight as I sold freight & logistics services for the last 2 years for BAX Global, 1 out of Boston and 1 out of Hartford. It drove me nuts to see that DC-9 pull up right behind the building practically pulling into the warehouse on BDL. Or having the opportunity being a sales guy to work the dock for a few weeks and actually talk to the pilots as they head out to the plane for the night. It was a great experience and leads me to where I am today. I am just getting into my flight training and plan to get all my ratings and definitely do the instructing side for at least a year. Beyond that, I know that I want to get into 135 and pay my dues and work my way up. I take serious pride in my work and accomplishments. I personally feel that I will benefit most on a professional and experience level from CFI'ing and heading the 135 direction. BUT, after all of my research and reading here, and the PM's sent to Ian, Mike, and so on, I can honestly say now that I have been converted and I WANT to work for the dark side.
I was thinking corporate too.....but I just got out of the corporate world for now and need a break from that before I consider getting back in, even from the flying point of view.
Oh yea, I forgot to add, thanks to you freight dawgs for adding your .02 to the mix of the other forums. It's because of you that has really piqued my interest here! Keep it up!:nana2:
Being a complete FNG, I've spent about a year lurking around the forums before I joined up and actually started posting and throwing some questions out there. Using the search function on the forums has answered nearly every question I have had so far. I'm 26 and a career changer in the process. I have thought about this long enough and am making my dreams come true. Sure I'll admit it, initially I was "oh I want to be a pilot" and all you think about then is the airlines. Personally I was intro'd to freight as I sold freight & logistics services for the last 2 years for BAX Global, 1 out of Boston and 1 out of Hartford. It drove me nuts to see that DC-9 pull up right behind the building practically pulling into the warehouse on BDL. Or having the opportunity being a sales guy to work the dock for a few weeks and actually talk to the pilots as they head out to the plane for the night. It was a great experience and leads me to where I am today. I am just getting into my flight training and plan to get all my ratings and definitely do the instructing side for at least a year. Beyond that, I know that I want to get into 135 and pay my dues and work my way up. I take serious pride in my work and accomplishments. I personally feel that I will benefit most on a professional and experience level from CFI'ing and heading the 135 direction. BUT, after all of my research and reading here, and the PM's sent to Ian, Mike, and so on, I can honestly say now that I have been converted and I WANT to work for the dark side.
I was thinking corporate too.....but I just got out of the corporate world for now and need a break from that before I consider getting back in, even from the flying point of view.
Oh yea, I forgot to add, thanks to you freight dawgs for adding your .02 to the mix of the other forums. It's because of you that has really piqued my interest here! Keep it up!:nana2:
jmontgomery
New Member
This has been a great discussion. I've also been a lurker for a while. Before coming to JC, I had a pretty vague idea of what 135 flying was and I wasn't sure if it was my cup of tea. I would love to get my career started at a place like AirNet. The experienced gained will be invaluable. I just started flying last October, but you guys have helped a lot. I hope I can return the favor in the future. Keep it up and you'll slowly convert us all to the dark side!
Thanks for a great discussion. I'm a part-time CFI and work full-time in sales. I'd love to do the Airnet thing at some point, but I have a question about the future (predicting that in aviation...yeah right). I hear people say every so often that "the checks are going away" as everything becomes more computerized, but I've been hearing that for over five years now and the Airnets and RAMs of the world seem to be still going strong. What are companies like these doing to adapt, how successful do you see their plans being, and what will they do if the checks ever do go away? I think flying Part 135 would be a really cool gig and would love to spend some time doing it at some point. What are the "career-type" (Majors, Fractionals, Larger Freight Operations, etc) that people go to, and I'm assuming the 1000 turbine PIC at companies like Airnet as opposed to something only flying props is the key...any comments?
Thanks,
Bigs
Thanks,
Bigs
Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
Some of them (e.g. Airnet, Ameriflight) have plans for post-check21. Some seem not to (e.g. Ram, FLX). No way to tell how successful they will be. My guess is the big ones will shrink but still be around. The little guys...? As fars as I can tell, express cargo (Fedex, UPS, DHL) and Lab samples are the two "future jobs" for check haulers, but there may be others I'm not aware of.
People went from FLX to all sorts of places when I was there. A bunch at Chatauqua, one at SkyWest, one at Eagle, one Kalitta Charters, one Pinnacle, one ASA. Those are just the ones I know personally. Even with 1000 TPIC, I wouldn't count on being competitive at a major or an ACMI. Fractional you'd probably have a chance at. At my new job, only one guy has moved on since I've been here, and he went to Omni, which is the sort of thing I'm looking for as well.
People went from FLX to all sorts of places when I was there. A bunch at Chatauqua, one at SkyWest, one at Eagle, one Kalitta Charters, one Pinnacle, one ASA. Those are just the ones I know personally. Even with 1000 TPIC, I wouldn't count on being competitive at a major or an ACMI. Fractional you'd probably have a chance at. At my new job, only one guy has moved on since I've been here, and he went to Omni, which is the sort of thing I'm looking for as well.
I asked the same thing before I was hired. Know what I was told?
"Who cares."
If you get hired, trained, and fly the line for 6 months and the company tanks you've only gained, not lost. You'd have nearly 1800 hours and 600 multi. (Or turbine)
Right now that's more time than 1 year XJET pilots have.
ackeight
Well-Known Member
:yeahthat:This is Exactly why I did not go to a regional. Get your PIC time high and then go look for the jet job (or wait for upgrade).:yeahthat::nana2::rawk:
anic: I'm feeling a little crazy this morning.