Is it a Messerschmitt or a Fokker?

tonyw said:
Whatever it is, I think you could say that it's all fokkered up!
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Interesting little factoid, Fokker means exactly what it sounds like in Dutch. But it means "Breeder" without the obscene connotations. The F word is actually an N word...
 
It looks like the prop only started hitting once it was on the grass. Hopefully that saved any major damage. Awesome plane. Not as cool as the F6F Hellcat though.
 
Matt13C said:
It looks like the prop only started hitting once it was on the grass. Hopefully that saved any major damage. Awesome plane. Not as cool as the F6F Hellcat though.
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FAA rules, if it the prop even has a noticeable drop in RPM (prop in high weeds could do it) it needs to be torn down and inspected as a prop strike.
I wouldnt want to fly that engine with out a reworked crank and main bearings / caps. The prop is toast.
 
Bummer..

There's a Hispano sitting in a hangar in St. Louis.. I guess the joker was quite the beast to fly, Skip Holm supposedly ground looped one several years ago at Oshkosh and that joker can fly anything.. :)
 
Tram said:
Bummer..

There's a Hispano sitting in a hangar in St. Louis.. I guess the joker was quite the beast to fly, Skip Holm supposedly ground looped one several years ago at Oshkosh and that joker can fly anything.. :)
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The -109 continued in production for a number of years after Germany fell. The Spanish produced one, the HA-1112 as you mentioned, replacing the Daimler Benz engine with a Merlin, the same engine in the Mustang and most of the movies use 'Buchons' instead of real -109s.

The Czechs built the Avia S-199 which combined all the bad habits of previous -109s into one machine. The Czechs replaced the DB engine with a heavier BMW engine which used a different prop and the airplane was a real bear to fly. Interesting also is the Israeli AF got some of these and at times were using them against Egypt which was flying P-51s so combat between these two airplanes continued after WWII.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avia_S-199
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/avia.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispano_Aviacion_Ha_1112

FWIW, old boy in Big Spring Tx named Connie Edwards had a bunch of Buchons at one time. Reportedly Edwards flew Buchons in the movie Battle of Britian and when filming was complete, there was little money left to pay Edwards for his efforts. He took his pay in aluminum... a number of Buchons and P-51s. At one time, Edwards had a couple of hangars chocked with airplanes including an Avenger, a couple of Albatrosses, some Buchons, P-51s and others. His own airfield also.. interesting fellow.
 
granlistillo said:
Fokker the man was Dutch. But his various namesake companies built aircraft in Netherlands, Germany and north America.
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Wonder if he meant Focke Wulf..

Focke Wulf and BF/Messerschmitt were prominent German aircraft makers during WW2..
 
dunno - But speaking of 190s there is a small company in Germany making FW 190 (the radial, not the long nose) with the old tooling. They are like ridiculously expensive, but i want one!!!!
 
Man, I'd love to have a 190..

I almost got my hands on a prop blade from one, but they were all gone....
 
granlistillo said:
Fokker the man was Dutch. But his various namesake companies built aircraft in Netherlands, Germany and north America.
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True and notable that during WWII, Fokker produced no fighters or really anything else according to various sites. Factory taken over by Germany to produce trainers and a version of the JU-52.

Fokker last hurrah was the F-100, a lengthened, re-engine derivative of their classic F-28 (your type rating said F-28, not F-100). American and USAir had a wad of them and most are now in the boneyard and Fokker is gone.

I had a chance to fly the shortened version of the long version (?), the F-70 which was designed specifically to avoid problems with scope clauses. It seated 67 as I remember but no one wanted to call it the F-67. Nice machine, easy handling and the Dutch are excellent hosts.
 
granlistillo said:
dunno - But speaking of 190s there is a small company in Germany making FW 190 (the radial, not the long nose) with the old tooling. They are like ridiculously expensive, but i want one!!!!
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http://www.flugwerk.de/

Here you go - the link above is the small company in Germany. They are in fact building a long-nosed version as well. They are using a souped up Allison in place of the Jumo V-12. Enjoy the link, pages are in both English and German.
 
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