Is comair done??

FatBastard

New Member
No doubt you have all heard the news about Comairs' last A/C being awarded to Mesaba and more furloughs. Comair has not been awarded any new flying and appears to be shrinking, fast.

So what are your thoughts? Is this airline a sinking or being realigned?
 

Nick

Well-Known Member
Fuel is way more than it used to be and fifty seat flying is the most expensive per seat mile, followed by 76 seat jet flying.

When scope will allow they will cut as much fifty seat jet flying as they need to.

Comair has no contract as it is owned Delta Air Lines.

Of all the fifty seat jet flying, Comair's is the easiest to cut. :(
 

BobDDuck

Island Bus Driver
There's an interesting big picture item in play here though. Despite most of the majors (well, ALL with the exception of CAL) giving up scope, they didn't completely give away the farm on "large" (ie, bigger than 50) "small jet" flying. It normally has to do with a percentage based on the total number of mainline aircraft and then for every aircraft over that they can add X number of LSJs. I don't know the numbers in the Delta system, but over at Airways, there are currently 23 too many LSJs running around the system Of course with USAPA playing catch up (and worrying mostly about the seniority integration) up until now not much has been done about it. However, they recently filed a grievance against the company about it.

That's the back story. Here's the interesting part. Airways can't add any more LSJs to the system unless they buy more planes for mainline first (or they get them to concede more scope). If they park 50 seaters because they aren't profitible, they can't replace them with anything except mainline metal. So one of two three things happens. Either they really need to keep those long thin routes open so they keep the 50 seaters around to fly them. The dump the 50 seaters and put mainline aircraft back on the routes. Or they dump the 50 seaters and shut the route down. With the industry being as competative as it is, most airlines will only close a route that is a complete was of time and many of these thin routes, while not able to support a 737 do provide a large amount of connection traffic into the hub. So that leaves the options of either throwing bigger airframes, crewed by mainline, on the route or leaving the "money losing" 50 seater on it.

It will be interesting to see what happens.

As far as CMR? Who knows. At one point in time being wholly owned meant everything. Now it means next to nothing except you can't go bid on another company's feed to diversify your portfolio.
 

rdsoxpilot

Well-Known Member
delta connection academy was sold fairly recently. the whole program is getting revamped.

and yea i only know a few pilots who actually went on to comair and ended up taking voluntary furloughs only two years on the job. most never got out of reserve.
 

mrivc211

Well-Known Member
No doubt you have all heard the news about Comairs' last A/C being awarded to Mesaba and more furloughs. Comair has not been awarded any new flying and appears to be shrinking, fast.

So what are your thoughts? Is this airline a sinking or being realigned?
I thought by the pilots taking all those concessions it was going to save everything? Gee, it's a good thing they took those concessions to save their jobs. When will pilots learn that our cost is a very small piece of the pie.
 

H46Bubba

Well-Known Member
I thought by the pilots taking all those concessions it was going to save everything? Gee, it's a good thing they took those concessions to save their jobs. When will pilots learn that our cost is a very small piece of the pie.
It was forced concessions! It was either that or the Company would have implemented whatever they wanted to. Yes there was a vote to strike, but in Ch.11 the judge can legally block that strike and he did. What would you have done in that situation Omar?
 

gimpfest

New Member
DAL has much to think about in the coming months.

With the aquisition of NWA they have either picked up full ownership or contracts with a few more....

Mesaba, Pinnacle, COMPASS -

It will indeed be interesting to see how this all plays out in the coming months. Not to mention the commitment to keep all of the hubs.
(not lost due to the merger, at least....)
 
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