jgheggie
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People keep saying that but out of the 40+ apps on my iPad/iPhone I paid for 1.
And apple plays well with apple....so I have all apple. Ha!
iPad people have Foreflight, what about us Android users?
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And apple plays well with apple....so I have all apple. Ha!
SquatThrust
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In order to have an iPad with internal GPS you have to buy one with a 3G data receiver/package, right? And it costs more than an otherwise comparably spec'd android tablet that will have an internal gps antenna? Not sure how I feel about that.
And you paid a premium for something that isn't "premium" any longer.
jgheggie
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SquatThrust
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That's just it...you have to buy someones hand-me-down to get a tablet that costs as much as a new Android tablet with the same or more features. To each their own, certainly, but Android has significantly closed the gap on iOS and in hardware that the costs don't make sense to me. Yet, Apple has its crowd.
elmetal
Ain't nobody got time for that
yeah. paid 150 dollars for an outdated ipad that already doesn't even receive updates anymore, and the ones it does receive make it slower and slower.
Don't get me wrong, I love my foreflight+ipad3, but you're being extremely delusional if you think a BRAND NEW nexus 7 for 199 doesn't absolutely obliterate a used wifi ipad 2 (based on the price you mentioned, that is my assumption of what you have)
Hell, my cell phone has a better processor than that ipad.
I had an Ipad 1 with foreflight for a couple years then I tried to switch to android. I tried all the moving maps and they just weren't as good. I don't know if it's the platform or just the software, but I couldn't settle for any of them after having the ipad. Android phones are great though. Now I'm back with an Ipad 4 and wingx and I'm done trying stuff out. There are plenty of deals for them on ebay or craigslist.
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Jeppview is "ok" on the iPad (Does not come near Foreflight.) I've never used it on Android.
jgheggie
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It's an iPad 3. Got lucky on the price but that's neither here nor there.
Albeit....never tried an android tablet. My issues with android stem from my experience with the HTC Evo 4g phone, as well my Samsung Galaxy S3. They both had tremendous operating issues after getting 6+ months old. I then got an iPhone 4S and it was night and day difference. So I upgraded to the iPhone 5.
Also, my original mp3 or musical devise from way back was an iPod. So I have thousands of songs saved from years of collecting. Sticking with apple allows me to keep all of that without having to redownload all of it.
elmetal
Ain't nobody got time for that
protip: You don't have to redownload anything.......... itunes stopped using drm on their music, so if you have any legacy songs you can just strip the drm anyway but that's not the point. the point is you're comparing the flagship device with older devices. I've said it time and time again, there are hundreds of android devices out there, but cell phone wise, today, 2/9/2014, I would not recommend ANY phones with the exception of the MotoX or the Nexus 5. If budget is an issue, the Moto G is a ridiculously amazing bargain.
That said, there are certain things I do like about iOS (and OS X in general) and ipads and whatnot, I love it for foreflight, but the android platform is much, much more versatile.
If only the artsy fartsy crowd joined the android side we'd have better looking stuff. Unfortunately apple keeps close quarters on that, I mean how else do you develop an iphone app? on a mac. Seriously. How ridiculous is that limitation? You cannot, per Apple, develop an iphone/ipad app without using a Mac.
Oh, run the operating system in a virtualbox/VMware machine! NOT. That's illegal per their EULA.
Again, not a fanboy, Apple just needs to open up to the world and stop being so applecentric. But hey who am I, just some poor pilot. I think they do their system well, I just think the whole game would change if they opened up a little bit. and by that I mean the people would benefit. apple surely wouldn't. I hate that apple thinks about themselves while the android platform is all about the user.
That said, there are certain things I do like about iOS (and OS X in general) and ipads and whatnot, I love it for foreflight, but the android platform is much, much more versatile.
If only the artsy fartsy crowd joined the android side we'd have better looking stuff. Unfortunately apple keeps close quarters on that, I mean how else do you develop an iphone app? on a mac. Seriously. How ridiculous is that limitation? You cannot, per Apple, develop an iphone/ipad app without using a Mac.
Oh, run the operating system in a virtualbox/VMware machine! NOT. That's illegal per their EULA.
Again, not a fanboy, Apple just needs to open up to the world and stop being so applecentric. But hey who am I, just some poor pilot. I think they do their system well, I just think the whole game would change if they opened up a little bit. and by that I mean the people would benefit. apple surely wouldn't. I hate that apple thinks about themselves while the android platform is all about the user.
jgheggie
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If I am in the market for a new tablet then I'm not so closed minded as to ONLY look at iPads. But as far as phones...I'm comfortable and happy with the iPhone 5 and probably will be with the 6,7,8 and however higher they go. Ha.
I didn't know I could get my iTunes music off of it and into another device. Never tried or cared to because I always had an iPod before getting an iPhone.
But back to the topic at hand...I love foreflight. It works great and far exceeds expectations. As far as price to acquire an iPad and forflight...well worth it for me.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
I didn't know I could get my iTunes music off of it and into another device. Never tried or cared to because I always had an iPod before getting an iPhone.
But back to the topic at hand...I love foreflight. It works great and far exceeds expectations. As far as price to acquire an iPad and forflight...well worth it for me.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
exneophyte
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Steve Wozniak, one of the original founders of apple has long advocated for this. He actually recently was trying to convince people that the Apple OS and Android OS should "cross-license" to allow way better compatibility.
The LG G2 is fantastic. The awesome performance totally makes up for the bad UI. If I was in to modding, I'm sure it would be even better.
There's just something about the tablets that doesn't work. It has to be the software support. I tried the Nexus 7 with about 5 moving map trials and they just weren't as good. All the functions were there but it just didn't feel good. Definitely agree on the proprietary bs though. They are more in to progressing their company than technology.
elmetal
Ain't nobody got time for that
Agree with this
Not so much with this. This is part of business 101. Always evolve. Always find a new market, always look for a new niche, always develop new products. Never stagnate. Stagnation means your competitors are beating you. Sure, make sure you keep up with your flagship device/service, but always look for new roads.
Take facebook for example: We all complained, whined and femaledogged at every new feature that got added on, or interface change that came about, from 2004 until today. With every update their numbers got bigger and bigger.
If it ain't broke, break it, then fix it. Only then do you understand how it works
elmetal
Ain't nobody got time for that
I've gotten into many arguments with people of Wozniak vs Jobs.
Most of the time people either don't know who he is, or don't seem to quite grasp the ingenuity that went on with the Lisa, or the IIe. That was some serious thinking on his part.
I highly recommend his book iWoz.
jgheggie
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I actually agree.
Maybe I said that the wrong way. I was referring to using foreflight and the iPad. It works great for me, I'm very familiar with it and very comfortable using it. So I'm not willing to give that up for any of the "benefits" of an android device.
exneophyte
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I'm no fanboy. I actually develop for both iOS and Android and a lot of people are shocked at my answer when they ask me which I prefer. "Quite frankly, I don't care. Whatever gets the job done." In my experience, pilots seem to prefer the iOS platform.
Apple would not be where it was without either Jobs or Wozniak. The conflict between those two is a classic conflict within technology companies. Without the developer, you wouldn't need sales and management people. Without the sales and management people, you wouldn't need the developer.
elmetal
Ain't nobody got time for that
for sure. and that's the part that makes it a cycle, pilots want ipad apps since they all have ipads, so people develop for ipads and more pilots get ipads and so on.
Until garmin pilot on android is as great as foreflight is, no one will be switching. and it sucks even more for garmin because they basically have to have 2 development teams
exneophyte
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Fortunately, for Garmin it's not quite as bad as needing 2 full development teams if things were planned out well starting from the beginning. Settling in on the core logic is the hardest part.
elmetal
Ain't nobody got time for that
You're assuming things were planned out from the beginning. Usually hardly the case in a big dev team like that I'd say. They probably have so much wasted dev time due to old undocumented •, or just stupid management decisions made years ago that still plague code.
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