IOE Scheduled!

Maximillian_Jenius said:
Kool, but why not just have all international flights depart out of JFK or ATL, and make CVG much like SLC. I.E. a domestic only hub with no international departs.

Wouldn't that be easier than deadheading crews to CVG?
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They probably rotate the crews something like: JFK-CDG-CVG-CDG-JFK. No dead heading involved. Continental does the same thing for their CLE-LGW flight, with the crew going EWR-LGW-CLE-LGW-EWR.
 
Just something I picked up from listening to liveatc.net's JFK feed - watch out for JFK arrival, if they are on the 31's, the tower likes to give Delta arrivals a last minute switch to 31L after you're all nicely set for 31R! Good luck with the trips.
 
Hey just wondering, do they give you a dictionary or something for the international air traffic phrases that are different to the US?
 
asl said:
Hey just wondering, do they give you a dictionary or something for the international air traffic phrases that are different to the US?
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There's like a 'best practices' guide for some of the differences. I know I have one for South/Central America but not sure if I have one for Europe.
 
OK, well the ones I know about are:
"Line up and wait, runway XX" instead of "Taxi into position and hold, runway XX" - that isn't so difficult!!
The confusing one is the altimiter settings - Europe uses two for local area approaches, QNH and QFE, and the readings are in millibars instead of inches of Hg. Of course getting these wrong can be a problem, that is ATC thinks you have 1000ft separation and you don't!!
QFE - Height above the airport based on local station pressure, gives 0 on altitude at touchdown.
QNH - Altidude above mean sea level based on local station pressure setting. With this setting the altitude shown at touchdown will be the altidude of the field above sea level. The ATC is supposed to give you the QFE or QNH or both when you are given an altidude descent below FL070. (Most of Europe uses Flight Level down to FL070)
QNE - This is the standard setting used for flight levels - 1013.2 millibars or 29.92 inches Hg.
And when I flew in a BA767 to Moscow, the crew said they have to have a conversion chart for flying in Russia for METRES to Flight Level! And they said that altimeter settings aren't adjusted over there for the airports, so if the airport is 2,000ft above sea level then you land with your altitude at 2,000ft.
Flight Levels stuff is all the same in Western Europe, but look out for RVSM, as it now applies across the whole of Europe.
And practice reading your callsigns as separate numbers, so DAL64 isn't Delta sixty-four it's Delta six - four.
Don't "Declare an emergency" you either "Mayday, Mayday, Mayday" which is we're in trouble right now, or "PanPan, PanPan, PanPan" which is we have a problem and need priority. So one engine out or low fuel emergency would be a PanPan scenario, cabin depress would be a Mayday.

"go around" is followed by "follow missed approach procedure" the MAP!
That's most of all the ones I can think of.
liveatc.net has several feeds from European and other international airports, and enroutes that may throw up a few others.

Good luck with it all, and give me a hollah if you're jetting into London.
 
Doug, I know that sounds exciting and all, but I bet youre gonna miss overnites in places like BHM and TUL when you're drinking wine in Paris.
 
Kingairer said:
Doug, I know that sounds exciting and all, but I bet youre gonna miss overnites in places like BHM and TUL when you're drinking wine in Paris.
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Actually, BHM was a good time. Out to Jim 'n Nicks for BBQ and then we'd traipse five corners (five points?) until the wee hours.
 
This is tomorrow! Good luck Doug and report back on how things go. :nana2::nana2::nana2::nana2::nana2::nana2:
 
Ehh, just hope I can find a way NOT to make a fool of myself from ATL-JFK tomorrow afternoon! :)
 
Doug Taylor said:
Actually, BHM was a good time. Out to Jim 'n Nicks for BBQ and then we'd traipse five corners (five points?) until the wee hours.
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Last I heard the Birmingham City Council was trying to pump more "curb appeal" (I think is what they called it) into the five points area. Last time I was down there it is actually looking pretty good, not that it was bad before or anything. I take it that the crew layover hotel is down in that area.

Good luck with your IOE coming up. Too bad your first transcon is on 757. Beats a mad dog I suppose.
 
Pick 2 crappy overnites and change the words.....How bout AEX!! Now thats a dump...No wonder Napoleon was so eager to part with LA.
 
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