Instrument student - no CFII

minds_warped

minds_warped

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I have a person who is working towards his instrument rating. He want's to go up and do some "hoodwork". However, I am not a CFII. I am only a measly CFI and MEI. Can I go up, slap a hood on him, and do some instrument work similar to the 3 hours required for the private? Im just trying to find the line between hoodwork, and instrument training - no ILS, VOR or holds for example, but OK to teach constant rate climbs, descents, turns to headings and compass turns.
 
You can do whatever you want with him, but he can't use it towards the 15 hrs training required for the instrument rating.
 
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Why not go up in the Safety Pilot capacity?

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You can do whatever you want with him, but he can't use it towards the 15 hrs training required for the instrument rating.

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I believeThat's what SkyGuy is saying. He could go up and safety pilot, but you need that 15 hrs from a CFII for the instrument rating.
 
Can't log it as dual given either since you're not a CFII and the training is towards an instrument rating. Safety pilot definitely though.
 
Actually, you can log it as dual given. As long as the student flies 15 hours and 3 within the preceding 60 days before the ride with a CFII, you're good to go.
 
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Actually, you can log it as dual given. As long as the student flies 15 hours and 3 within the preceding 60 days before the ride with a CFII, you're good to go.

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Then that time counts for nothing, and it becomes a rip-off.....
 
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Then that time counts for nothing, and it becomes a rip-off.....

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Just because you're not a CFII, doesn't mean you're not giving instruction. Personally, I wouldn't train someone for the majority of their instrument rating (don't have my CFII) and then send them up with someone for their 15 and 3, but I've covered for friends when they can't fly with their instrument students for a lesson or two. I told these people I didn't have my CFII and encouraged them to go up with a safety pilot. They felt they could learn more from a flight instructor and I'm pretty sure they didn't feel "ripped off" after their lessons.
 
I agree with EDUC8-or,

Before I had my CFII, and while I was WORKING on my CFII, I was the checkride prep guy for the other CFII's instrument students. It was good for the students to have someone knowledgeable, and was GREAT experience for myself as well.
 
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