instrument requirements 10hours or 50hours xc pic time?

[itsbfinch]

Need some clarification on this. In the final rule from 10/20/2009 it says that you only need 10 hours of pic xc time instead of the previous 50.

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_G...72DFC1B3808D2CB486257656006E4D11?OpenDocument

Check out 61.61d in the summary of revisions

But when I look at the regs online is still says you need 50hours of xc pic time.

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/tex...&node=14:2.0.1.1.2&idno=14#14:2.0.1.1.2.2.1.4


So am I missing something here or has the FAA just not updated this in the regs? I have a student that came from another flight school and is almost done their instrument training but only as 35 hours of xc time. I assume they were doing in 141. I would be easier to just finish up part 61 if this was correct and you only needed 10hours pic xc


Thanks:dunno:

 

[lhornaday]

No changes were made to instrument-airplane requirements, only to the instrument-helicopter rating or the instrument-powered-lift rating.

61.65(d)(1) previously required at least fifty hours of cross country flight time as pilot in command with at least ten of those hours in
airplanes for an instrument-airplane rating. It did not account for the instrument-helicopter rating or the instrument-powered-lift rating.

No it does, but they also had to reword 61.65(d). So no real changes.

 

[Chief Captain]

On a tangent...where does it say that the xc flights have to be at least 50nm? I was looking it up today, but couldn't find the reg.

 

[js0305]

On a tangent...where does it say that the xc flights have to be at least 50nm? I was looking it up today, but couldn't find the reg.

(3) Cross-country time means--
(i) Except as provided in paragraphs (b)(3)(ii) through (b)(3)(vi) of this section, time acquired during a flight--
(A) Conducted by a person who holds a pilot certificate;
(B) Conducted in an aircraft;
(C) That includes a landing at a point other than the point of departure; and
(D) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems to navigate to the landing point.
(ii) For the purpose of meeting the aeronautical experience requirements (except for a rotorcraft category rating), for a private pilot certificate (except for a powered parachute category rating), a commercial pilot certificate, or an instrument rating, or for the purpose of exercising recreational pilot privileges (except in a rotorcraft) under Sec. 61.101(c), time acquired during a flight--
(A) Conducted in an appropriate aircraft;
(B) That includes a point of landing that was at least a straight-line distance of more than 50 nautical miles from the original point of departure; and
(C) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems to navigate to the landing point.

 

[mshunter]

So I guess "beam me up Scotty" doesn't count then....Dang. Now I have to go and re-do my whole freakin logbook!

 

[Chief Captain]

Thanks!

 

[itsbfinch]

gotcha it all makes sense now