Instructing pet peeves.....

wrxpilot said:
Also, when people are practicing approaches into a non-towered field, lay off the instrument talk on the CTAF. The vast majority of pilots at the airport have no clue that you're saying. It's ok to make a statement about what appch you're doing, but follow up with something like "N123AB is 5 mi north, inbound at 1,000 for rwy 15". If you're going missed, simply say you are departing the area to the northeast, climbing to 1,500 ft (or whatever it is). Most pilots do not know what the "published missed" is or what intersection you are at. Even instrument pilots don't have the freakin' appch plates for every airport memorized!
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BINGO! Big one there. I fail to realize how people cannot use logic in such situations. The main purpose of the CTAF is to let other people KNOW WHERE YOU ARE. Take a circling-only approach, for example. If you say 5 miles inbound GPS-A approach. How the hell are people gonna know where that is? I completely agree with you. Whenever I switch over to CTAF from an approach/center frequency, I use normal "VFR" position reports.
 
AngelFuree said:
BINGO! Big one there. I fail to realize how people cannot use logic in such situations. The main purpose of the CTAF is to let other people KNOW WHERE YOU ARE. Take a circling-only approach, for example. If you say 5 miles inbound GPS-A approach. How the hell are people gonna know where that is? I completely agree with you. Whenever I switch over to CTAF from an approach/center frequency, I use normal "VFR" position reports.
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yup that is what i teach too. i can't stand 325 and even 415 students (multi and CFII) make CTAF calls and say they are X far out on X approach. Seriously, just pretend everyone out there is a VFR pilot and has no clue what a VOR approach is
 
I had an instructor during my commercial that would insist on holding his hand on the gear lever during short final. I understood his motives, preventing an inadvertant retraction, but I would reach for my throttles or props and get his hand instead. Awkward.

Wide, slow patterns annoy me more than anything. There is absolutely no need to climb to TPA before making your crosswind turn. You'll get the altitude on downwind!! The pilot of the airplane behind you in the pattern is probably trying to bludgeon him/herself to death on the yoke while completing a dozen 360 degree turns waiting for you to turn onto your 3 mile final.

Failure to recognize and correct unsychronized props. >_<
 
BuickCFI said:
i can't stand 325 and even 415 students .... just pretend everyone out there is a VFR pilot and has no clue what a VOR approach is
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You have 415 students???????? :sarcasm:

Do you realized no-one outside of your flight school has a clue what 325, 415, and any other number combination is?

Remember: Idea transmitted & idea received.
 
NJA_Capt said:
You have 415 students???????? :sarcasm:

Do you realized no-one outside of your flight school has a clue what 325, 415, and any other number combination is?

Remember: Idea transmitted & idea received.
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yes, which is why i posted (multi and CFII) in my post, you used selective quotations.....

i failed to qualify though that the multi students have received all the training for instrument SEL and are working on the MEL requirements
 
I'm w/ four at the moment. I like staying busy, though. The only thing are the 221s (instrument introduction course, for reference) who really screw up your schedule with solo x-country signoffs. I wish I had six instrument students. I enjoy teaching that course a lot.
 
AngelFuree said:
I'm w/ four at the moment. I like staying busy, though. The only thing are the 221s (instrument introduction course, for reference) who really screw up your schedule with solo x-country signoffs. I wish I had six instrument students. I enjoy teaching that course a lot.
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try 7 students(325(multi), 415(CFII), 414(CFI initial) )and conducting stage checks.
 
People that say on the radio, Orlando approach, Connection 209, 700 for 1500, runway heading. The word "for" can cause confusion when combined to certain numbers.

Here's a better method. Orlando approach, Connection 209, 700 climbing 1500 runway heading.

And god forbid you say "with you" or "checking in" if I'm within hearing range of your dumb@$$. "With you" turns into witchyou, and checking in, hell, they know your calling them. No need to converse extra crap. Trust me, YOU DON'T SOUND COOL!

Better - Daytona approach good afternoon, Connection 209, 4000. That's all that's needed. Short, brief, polite and professional.
 
DCApilot2006 said:
People that say on the radio, Orlando approach, Connection 209, 700 for 1500, runway heading. The word "for" can cause confusion when combined to certain numbers.

Here's a better method. Orlando approach, Connection 209, 700 climbing 1500 runway heading.

And god forbid you say "with you" or "checking in" if I'm within hearing range of your dumb@$$. "With you" turns into witchyou, and checking in, hell, they know your calling them. No need to converse extra crap. Trust me, YOU DON'T SOUND COOL!

Better - Daytona approach good afternoon, Connection 209, 4000. That's all that's needed. Short, brief, polite and professional.
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Yeah, SteveC corrected us on that in the other communication thread, regarding the "700 climbing 1500."

I like politeness on the radios. You are treated with more respect and usually get what you request if you show the controllers the politeness they deserve.
 
DCApilot2006 said:
People that say on the radio, Orlando approach, Connection 209, 700 for 1500, runway heading. The word "for" can cause confusion when combined to certain numbers.

Here's a better method. Orlando approach, Connection 209, 700 climbing 1500 runway heading.

And god forbid you say "with you" or "checking in" if I'm within hearing range of your dumb@$$. "With you" turns into witchyou, and checking in, hell, they know your calling them. No need to converse extra crap. Trust me, YOU DON'T SOUND COOL!

Better - Daytona approach good afternoon, Connection 209, 4000. That's all that's needed. Short, brief, polite and professional.
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I'm going to send you a bouquet of flowers. YES, someone gets it.

I still shake my head over the goober that said, "pimping two fitty" when ATC asked about his present speed.

Worst? An airliner asking for the controller's number because he was trying to ask her out on a date, ON FREQUENCY, while the rest of us were trying to deviate around a line of thunderstorms on a busy arrival corridor to Dallas.
 
Doug Taylor said:
Worst? An airliner asking for the controller's number because he was trying to ask her out on a date, ON FREQUENCY, while the rest of us were trying to deviate around a line of thunderstorms on a busy arrival corridor to Dallas.
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uh, yeah. sorry about that. the date was good though.
 
I have not read all the posts in this thread to know if this one has been mentioned but the worst of the worst for me...drives me crazy and makes me cut lessons short is students with mouths that smell like garbage cans. I have one or three students that don't seem to know what a tooth brush is. The cockpit is a small place to be with someone who's breath smells like the bottom of a dumpster at a live poultry market. I have even tried to keep an emergency box of mints in my flight bag and it's always THOSE students who say "no thanks". :banghead:
 
Hernandezcfi said:
I have not read all the posts in this thread to know if this one has been mentioned but the worst of the worst for me...drives me crazy and makes me cut lessons short is students with mouths that smell like garbage cans. I have one or three students that don't seem to know what a tooth brush is. The cockpit is a small place to be with someone who's breath smells like the bottom of a dumpster at a live poultry market. I have even tried to keep an emergency box of mints in my flight bag and it's always THOSE students who say "no thanks". :banghead:
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Curry Breath + Curry Pits + Curry Fingers = Curry Death
 
Hernandezcfi said:
I have not read all the posts in this thread to know if this one has been mentioned but the worst of the worst for me...drives me crazy and makes me cut lessons short is students with mouths that smell like garbage cans. I have one or three students that don't seem to know what a tooth brush is. The cockpit is a small place to be with someone who's breath smells like the bottom of a dumpster at a live poultry market. I have even tried to keep an emergency box of mints in my flight bag and it's always THOSE students who say "no thanks". :banghead:
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I can relate to that. One my students's mouth smells like a rotten infectious ball of pus. His breath makes the whole airplane literally smell like s---! I've had to give him a ride before. He's stinked up my car too. :(
 
surreal1221 said:
And how many requirements is that?

A SE instrument approach. . .lol

That's tough ;)
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well for the 141 program here there are quite a few. As far as this program is concerned the students don't yet hold a CSEL or IA license (but in the program they are treated as if they did hold them) and are just meeting the MEL add on requirements for those ratings.

but you are correct, part 61 = just demonstrating a SE instrument approach.

doesn't matter though, the student should still be able to self announce on a CTAF
 
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