In Vitro Fertalization

Nothing really to add other than "have you tried not using a condom yet?" ;) But seriously, I've heard that the process can be hard on the missus - but when it sticks it'll really stick - a surprising amount of people I know who've done it ended up with twins and one family even got triplets.

Also, being a dad is one of the most awesome experiences. Being a father defines me as a man in a way I never thought was possible before I was a dad. Good luck - we're all counting on you!
 
I have heard that a lot about what you are both saying, and the wife and I tried the 'relax' and carefree approach the last few months with no luck. I found that approach very hard to stick to with being a pilot though. For example; when you know you have a multi day trip coming up at her most fertile time, It causes stress and anxiety about having to leave. You then tend to focus on it and put so much emphasis on doing everything to get the best odds.
 
To add to Poser's post above, we went through all of the IVF process (I never wanted to know this much information on how a female's body works). We went through a bad spell that I won't discuss in this thread, but some here may remember. We (well, I) decided enough was enough and I couldn't go through it again. I didn't want to see my wife go through all of the shots and things they go through body wise to do a cycle.

We ended up fostering kids for a bit, and ended up adopting our son about 3 years ago. Before we finalized the adoption, we found out my wife was pregnant. It was one of those "just relax and it'll happen" that is nearly impossible to do unless you have a reason to relax. We now have a 7 year old boy and a 2 year old daughter.

Best of luck to all of those trying this process...it is definitely a very hard road to go down, even if all goes well.
Yeah, man...the aunt and uncle of my wife's who subsidized our IVF had the exact same thing happen. They apparently had all sorts of problems and I believe were about to start their second round of IVF when the aunt just said screw it. She didn't care, and didn't want to try anymore. And that's when it happened.
 
I have heard that a lot about what you are both saying, and the wife and I tried the 'relax' and carefree approach the last few months with no luck. I found that approach very hard to stick to with being a pilot though. For example; when you know you have a multi day trip coming up at her most fertile time, It causes stress and anxiety about having to leave. You then tend to focus on it and put so much emphasis on doing everything to get the best odds.
That's the giving up part. When we gave up before we started IVF we just didn't care anymore. No tracking ovulation, no basal temperature readings, no fertility drugs...nothing. Just straight up, 100% who gives a sh*t. Not to be crass, but we just stopped trying. We got back to the point were we were boning to be...well boning. we weren't shooting for fertile periods, or odds. Hell at that point we weren't even trying to conceive. we were just enjoying each other...period.

Now I'm not saying that will happen to you. All I am saying is if you DO go through with IVF it makes it very easy to get back to that point in your relationship were you just enjoyed being intimate for the sake of it. No pressure, no expectations, and no hopes. No stress what so ever.

Again, at the risk of being crass and potentially sharing to much info, once the wife and I got over the stress of trying to have a baby (because we both just accepted it wasn't going to happen on our own and it was out of our hands) we also ended up having some of the best sex we've had in the last 8 years.

I guess what I am trying to say is if it happens on it's own then it happens. If not, IVF should greatly increase the chances. Either way it's out of your hands...so just relax, enjoy being with each other, and get your damn freak on ;)
 
Thanks man. That is part of the reason we are salvaging this cycle by switching to IVF, in hope that it works and we can carry on with our lives. It would have been nice if the IUI worked out, and we were able to save the money though. But Your right , I am really looking forward to getting past this road block in life and getting back to some normalcy again. It's no joke, sex really looses its fun when it's all timed and being done for a sole purpose.
 
Thanks man. That is part of the reason we are salvaging this cycle by switching to IVF, in hope that it works and we can carry on with our lives. It would have been nice if the IUI worked out, and we were able to save the money though. But Your right , I am really looking forward to getting past this road block in life and getting back to some normalcy again. It's no joke, sex really looses its fun when it's all timed and being done for a sole purpose.
No problem, man. It's all just a crappy thing to have to go through, and it really takes it out of both you and your wife. And you are right...it really does lose it's fun when we make it just for procreation. It becomes clinical. Calculated. that's no fun. Clinical smells like rubbing alcohol...and rubbing alcohol is like the least sexy smell I can think of.
 
No problem, man. It's all just a crappy thing to have to go through, and it really takes it out of both you and your wife. And you are right...it really does lose it's fun when we make it just for procreation. It becomes clinical. Calculated. that's no fun. Clinical smells like rubbing alcohol...and rubbing alcohol is like the least sexy smell I can think of.

Lol. Thanks for adding some humor in.
 
Been a while since I've been on the JC forum so thought I would give everyone an update/story

My wife and I began the IVF process last April. As I mentioned I was very worried about her have to go through much of it alone while I was on the road. We were able to schedule most of the apts with the baby doc on my days off to see what we were really getting into. After the explanation of how the shots, patches, more shots, etc worked we were both feeling over whelmed. The week before my wife started the shots to cause her overlies to go into over drive and produce a bunch of eggs, we met with the nurse so she could do a practice injection (saline) in her stomach. She did it, barely, but got through it. I volunteered to give myself one so I would know what she was going to have to go through on a daily basis for several weeks...doesn't feel great. But I tell ya, she really champed up and got into a groove where she came home and knocked them out like it was nothing. After server all weeks the doc determined there were enough eggs to harvest so in we went in and about a week or two later I think it was, the mad scientist had finished their lab experiments and we had 6 embryos.

After a few more weeks (everything kinda melted together) we were ready for the implantation. We were so excited and happy to finally be getting to move on after all the shots and patches and emotions....unfortunately this one did not take and we were back to square one. Now this was a tough time for both of us. Not only could we not have kids naturally, but our friends were all getting knocked up and now science had failed us too.:bang:

After the first round we decided to take a month off, regroup, and get our heads back into the game...getting back the positive mental attitude :p. The second go round was the same except this time the doc want to use a series of progesterone (I think. Hey I'm a pilot not a doc) shots that she had to take in butt. These suckers were no punk. 2" long needles. I had to man up and give these shots to her and when I was gone she had friends (very important to have some close friends and family while going through this to help and talk to) help her out....we are forever on debt to them lol. The second go round of the implantation was as routine as the first. A few weeks later we were supposed to go in on a Monday for a preggo test to see...but we cheated, like last time and she took a home pregnancy test the Saturday before and lo and behold it was positive! Our family is going to be growing by +1 April 2015 and we could not be any happier :bounce:

I just want to say that for those of you out there who are dealing with the same situation there is hope. It's not necessarily fun or easy or something that any of us thought we would ever have to go through but it is possible. I believe that anyone going through this will grow as individuals, as couples and as parents and will be a 100 times more thankful for the gift they receive than parents who did not have to endure this process. I'm not saying that parents who did not have this hurdle to maneuver do not love their children with every cell and fiber of them, but when science says you cannot have offspring naturally, it crushes your soul. But when science also comes back and says "hey, but you still can!" and you see it become reality, that soul begins to regain life again and you and your partner begin to see the color in life come back again. So to anyone going through this PLEASE feel free to PM any questions you might have I would love to be someone you could shoot the breeze about this topic with.

Now.....(I know, this is a lengthy post) a summary of things I learned.

1. My wife and I found a fertility clinic that offered two kinds if treatments.
A. One treatment for ~$13,000 outcome regardless meds included
B. 6 treatments for $25,000.00 + cost of meds, but guaranteed one live birth out of this 6 or money completely refunded minus meds you pay for.

......if you have this option or something close to it I would recommend it. Yes it is more even if you get a pregnancy the first try but if you don't the first second third fourth etc...this put our mind at ease (somewhat bc it is stil a lot of cheese) that if after six tries we still didn't get pregnant, we would not be out a crap ton of money.

2. like Poser said above....relaaaax:cool:. Easier said than done, I know. But just begin thinking positive and visualizing that baby.

3. Talk, talk, talk. Talk with each other. Both of you have a billion emotions, thought, worries going through your head. This was particularly difficult for me. I'm not a big talker...I fix things, but not this I couldn't. If you don't talk to each other you risk making that person feel alone. Finally after a sob fest from my wife I realized how along I was making her feel by not expressing my emotions on the whole process as well...I quickly changes that. But remember, it doesn't always need to be woes "us". If you're feeling good, then use that to encourage the other.

4. GUYS! This is hard on us for a variety of reasons, especially if the whole cause of infertility is bc of the male factor which mine was. My boys were lazy and extremely underemployed...to much partying I guess. BUT, the sacrifice your ladies are making is something we will never comprehend...so at least try. Bend over backwards for the during the process. Write off mood swings and snide comments to the hormones and drugs and needed sand probing and...you get my point. We got it easy compared to them. A trip or two to the clinic, some naughty magazines...boom we are done. Not them. Just think of this as preparation for when you do get a successful implantation....bc it doesn't stop their. Now she's pregnant and guuuueeeessss what? It is still all about her, except now its about her and your guys little nugget too. :eek2:


I hope this will inspire hope to all of you going through this out there and I pray the best results for you as well. And on another note keep this in mind as well. We decided early before the treatments that if for some reason we were unable to produce a baby we were going to adopt. There are other ways to have a family and many, many children in need of good families. As a matter of fact, even though we have 4 more embryos we are still considering down the road adopting a child for our second.

Cheers!
 
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Guy, that's great! Congratulations! The wife telling you she is pregnant is one of those never forget moments. I was walking out of C at IAH. I couldn't stop smiling the entire van ride to the hotel. It's great.

Now just wait...give it a few more weeks when you can find out the gender and watch the baby clothes madness begin. Our daughter isn't even born yet and she has more clothes than I do, lol.

Grats again, my friend.
 
Guy, that's great! Congratulations! The wife telling you she is pregnant is one of those never forget moments. I was walking out of C at IAH. I couldn't stop smiling the entire van ride to the hotel. It's great.

Now just wait...give it a few more weeks when you can find out the gender and watch the baby clothes madness begin. Our daughter isn't even born yet and she has more clothes than I do, lol.

Grats again, my friend.

Thankya sir, we find out boy/girl the end of November! And congrats to you all too! When's the kiddo arrive?
 
Well the wify had her beta test today after the IVF transfer, the test came back negative...

Feels like someone literally has ripped my heart out of my chest and put it through a meat grinder.

To have gone through all of that emotionally, physically, and financially then end up with a big fat zero is numbing.

Thanks everyone for the support.
 
Well the wify had her beta test today after the IVF transfer, the test came back negative...

Feels like someone literally has ripped my heart out of my chest and put it through a meat grinder.

To have gone through all of that emotionally, physically, and financially then end up with a big fat zero is numbing.

Thanks everyone for the support.
Sorry to hear that. As much pain as you are in, your wife is hurting much more. Keep that in mind. Support each other throughout the process. There will be major ups and downs and you must support each other to keep your relationship together.

If you need a helpful ear from somebody that's been where you are, I'm sure there are people here that can help. I'll be back in the US on 21 Nov so if you need another ear, pm me and I'll give you my number for after I'm home.
 
Well... Might as well chime in and save someone trouble and grief
Warning - whatever I'm writing is not scientifically confirmed to the exact standards blah blah blah

After five years of trying and everything but the IVF thrown in the mix, the results were still negative.
Went to a local doc (as opposed to a shiny Chicagoland fertility clinic used before), he set us up for a beta-3 integrin test. Alledgedly that's a protein needed for an embryo to implant. Test results came back negative - the protein was missing. Had a chat with a nurse, who told us of her friend, who went through six IVF procedures, all negative, to only conceive naturally after the treatment for that beta-3 integrin protein.
With the hopes up we embarked on the journey - which, I'll be brutally honest, is rough. What they do is they shut down the female reproductive system with Lupron for three months (safe sex only for that time, very important), then it reboots and hopefully starts working like it was intended to. Safe sex until the first period after Lupron - otherwise there is a very high chance of birth defects - so very important, buy some condoms.
Here's a gruesome part -Lupron sends them into a menopause (that's a preview for y'all ;)), but unlike a natural menopause which kicks in over time, this happens overnight. Be warned - you live through this together, you will live through anything.
Anyway, month after the post-Lupron period she was pregnant and on 1/6/13 gave birth to our wonderful daughter. Those three scary months were well worth it and you just shake your head when people tell you about pregnant women's mood swings :)
Now the other side of the coin - stopped by that doc recently, told him we wanted another kid and were looking into the beta-3 test again. His Bentley was missing, he said that the scientific community had no proof that whatever we did works (must have been one hell of a coincidence after 5 years of hoping and not getting anywhere), how about we go for an IVF on this one instead?

Take it for what it is, just our story. If we don't conceive next few months, the obgyn she's going to will give her a Lupron shot (these days they have shots that work for three months, used to be shot a month) to see if we can have another coincidense we like that.
 
Wow BigZ that is an incredible story, thanks for sharing! That was never discussed with us, but I will certainly ask about it now.
 
Yup, looked up the recent news after I posted the previous comment - some work is being done in that direction and there's a certain promise in it
Good luck!
 
Many years ago, I went through this with my ex-wife. One thing which was a consistent problem through the entire process was she talked herself into believing she was pregnant. I cautioned her against convincing herself pregnancy was right around the corner. Each time, results came back negative and she was devastated. She eventually decided it was all my fault and she started divorce proceedings while I was on AD with the Army.

Ultimately, she and hubby #3 (I was #2.) discovered a genetic abnormality causing her body to abort all pregnancies. They tried adoption and surrogacy, but nothing was successful. It became his fault and now, according to my former brother-in-law, she's working on #5.
 
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