In Cockpit Video of Near Miss and Parachute Deloy

Flysher said:
Does cirrus have a suggested list of situations in which a pilot should pull the chute?
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Here is what the POH says:

Loss of Control
Pilot Incapacitation
Landing Required in Terrain not suitable for safe landing
Structual Failure
Mid-Air
 
Champcar said:
Here is what the POH says:

Loss of Control
Pilot Incapacitation
Landing Required in Terrain not suitable for safe landing
Structual Failure
Mid-Air
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Now if the pilot is flying solo, how will this work? :insane:
 
I was postulating different flight control failures and what would fall under "loss of control," and am curious what y'all think in this regard. Would losing an aileron necessarily be a deployment event? I can see that if the aileron is hanging by a thread (swinging all over the place), generating unpredictable moments, this would not be a good thing to attempt a landing with. It would also be good to minimize flight over populated areas in this situation since the aileron could let fly at any time. It looks like this is what the Cirrus pilot quoted was dealing with and I do not question his decision. However, if the thing has already cleanly separated, would the aircraft be that difficult to control? Just adjust the trim and expect a reduced roll rate. Similarly, I cannot see how losing the rudder would be a crisis. Make shallow, sloppy turns and bring it back to the airfield if the winds are not too gusty. Let the tricycle gear sort it out. Losing the elevator, on the other hand....
 
Champcar said:
Here is what the POH says:

Loss of Control
Pilot Incapacitation
Landing Required in Terrain not suitable for safe landing
Structual Failure
Mid-Air
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cool, thanks.

The cirrus just has anti ice equipment too right? AFAIK it's not certified for known icing, true?
 
Realms09 said:
I was postulating different flight control failures and what would fall under "loss of control," and am curious what y'all think in this regard.
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In the USAF we have been taught that if it takes greater than 3/4 control deflection to maintain stability, then that's a loss of control.
 
Italianaviator said:
I talked to the Cirrus representative at the NBAA conference in Orlando last month and he stated that once the shoot is pulled the aircraft is totalled and no longer flyable. A factor that the insurance companies don't like either.
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It's expensive, but repairing an aircraft after a BRS deployment can be less costly than replacing the aircraft depending on the specific situation. I know of at least 2 that have been repaired and flew one of them during the maintenance flight testing during it's final return to service stage.

My guess is that he or she was trying to impress the seriousness of the deployment and prevent you from thinking that the parachute could be repacked in a few hours and the plane flown away. You wouldn't believe how many people would come up to our booths at KOSH, AOPA, NBAA, etc., and ask how long it takes to repack the 'chute and if they could do it themselves! :)
 
Wow that sucks I wish the video didn't skip when the aircraft impacted the field, I've wondered what it looked like when it hit.
 
yeah i was confused too, was expecting to see a cirruz...

and yeah he was quick on that chute handle but hell i guess it worked out. wish there was an external view to see exactly what happened.... he hit a tow cable or something?

can someone clarify?
 
TXaviator said:
yeah i was confused too, was expecting to see a cirruz...

and yeah he was quick on that chute handle but hell i guess it worked out. wish there was an external view to see exactly what happened.... he hit a tow cable or something?

can someone clarify?
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Yea, the tow cable to the glider went into the prop. He pulled up when he saw the plane, but it wasnt enough.
 
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