IMC and not on a flight plan

There was a decent article in AOPA a while ago (maybe a few years now) that was written by a controller about why they issue the traffic advisory. The end of it was that if you don't have the traffic in sight, ask for a vector.
 
highspeed said:
There was a decent article in AOPA a while ago (maybe a few years now) that was written by a controller about why they issue the traffic advisory. The end of it was that if you don't have the traffic in sight, ask for a vector.
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Yes please let us know, and like I said letting us know you are IMC will help as well because then their is no anticipation of you getting the traffic at any point. In class E airspace technically there is no separation standard between IFR/VFR so if we determine that targets won't merge we can just let it play out. If you're not comfortable with that let us know and we'll vector/change altitude traffic/airspace permitting.
 
Guy said:
I just hate it when some guy who has actually read the AIM comes in and ruins a great thread listing all the non-standard ways to make a radio call.

FAVORITES:

Tally-ho!

Got him on the fish finder.

We are looking, but we don't see him right now, but he might be tucked behind our wing, and the sun is kind of in our face, but we will keep looking for him and in the mean time, you keep making those calls for us will you please.

Roger.

Ah, I think I see him, what color is his plane?
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Hey, now, "Roger" is ICAO, albeit usually used inappropriately.
 
Guy said:
I just hate it when some guy who has actually read the AIM comes in and ruins a great thread listing all the non-standard ways to make a radio call.

FAVORITES:

Tally-ho!

Got him on the fish finder.

We are looking, but we don't see him right now, but he might be tucked behind our wing, and the sun is kind of in our face, but we will keep looking for him and in the mean time, you keep making those calls for us will you please.

Roger.

Ah, I think I see him, what color is his plane?
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My favorite

(Traffic called to an air force fighter)
Radar Contact
 
Guy said:
I just hate it when some guy who has actually read the AIM comes in and ruins a great thread listing all the non-standard ways to make a radio call.

FAVORITES:

Tally-ho!

Got him on the fish finder.

We are looking, but we don't see him right now, but he might be tucked behind our wing, and the sun is kind of in our face, but we will keep looking for him and in the mean time, you keep making those calls for us will you please.

Roger.

Ah, I think I see him, what color is his plane?
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Yes and no, some times ICAO just won't do it.
 
I love when people talk about proper radio phraseology but I'm sure they use:

Three instead of Tree
Five instead of Fife

and

Quebec instead of Keh-Beck
 
jhugz said:
I love when people talk about proper radio phraseology but I'm sure they use:

Three instead of Tree
Five instead of Fife

and

Quebec instead of Keh-Beck
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I, for one, do use tree, fife, and keh-beck. The tree and keh-beck came from flying a plane that was 23Q and controllers and flight service specialists were forever getting the numbers backwards even when I said "two. three. quebec." So I started using two tree keh-beck, and the problem stopped.

The fife was because one day I actually heard on the radio someone saying five and it sounded like nine. I didn't know it was really possible. So I started using fife.
 
boondr said:
don't forget the one NOBODY says

Fower
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You realize the next time I run into you on the frequency I'm going to have to go ICAO-standard all the way. I wonder how long I can keep it up.

"Did I just hear a niner in there? What, are you talking on a walkie talkie?" :D
 
If you like Tree and those others you'll love "line up and wait" and "make one right orbit." Coming soon to a tower near you.
 
boondr said:
don't forget the one NOBODY says

Fower
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Says you.

I can't get ATC to say it back to me.

I don't say it all the time, but I go into my little fits of standard phraseology from time to time.

"Tree, Fo-wer, Fife, Niner, Kay-beck Vacating flight level fo-wer one zero descending to flight level Tree Fife zero."

-mini
 
minitour said:
Says you.

I can't get ATC to say it back to me.

I don't say it all the time, but I go into my little fits of standard phraseology from time to time.

"Tree, Fo-wer, Fife, Niner, Kay-beck Vacating flight level fo-wer one zero descending to flight level Tree Fife zero."

-mini
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Damnit mini, you're one of those guys. Okay, I admit that I attempt to be standard too, but certain things do slip. Telling ATC that I'll "pedal faster" or "feed the hamsters" doesn't help much. :bandit:
 
dasleben said:
Damnit mini, you're one of those guys.
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Yep.

We also wear our O2 mask in cruise above whatever the hell altitude it's supposed to be. Usually around 34, I'll start pulling it out and getting it ready (giggity) and by 36 I've got it on (giggity) so that it's sucking my face by the time I hit 41 (giggity!).

-mini
 
dasleben said:
You realize the next time I run into you on the frequency I'm going to have to go ICAO-standard all the way. I wonder how long I can keep it up.

"Did I just hear a niner in there? What, are you talking on a walkie talkie?" :D
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Bring it on.
 
drunkenbeagle said:
Unverified is the key word here. I've seen altitude encoding transponders be off by as much as 2000'.
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I have you beat. I was flying west VFR at 4500'. Center comes on and tells me to be advised that westbound VFR altitudes are even thousands plus 500. I said roger, I'm at 4500. Center: I show you at 9500. Recycled transponder and then it just didn't work anymore. "radar service terminated freq approved."
 
This reminds me, last week there was someone flying around in northern MD just south of York on a 1200 code. Their altitude readout was alternating between FL380 and FL270, different each sweep but way up there the whole time.






I called the FSDO on him for operating in Class A airspace without a IFR clearance. :sarcasm:
 
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