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I have to admit I can say some pretty stupid stuff sometimes. But nothing compared to what I hear some people say about aviation. I got into this big discussion with the whole damn JROTC class about the A-10 in the military. They kept on insisting that the A-10 is part of the Army and so are a whole bunch of other fighters. They are so freaking stupid. I told them that it isn't and they're all sitting there saying it is like they know what their talking about.

I also had this girl on the way to the football game saying that she wants to fly someday. She wants to fly either for American Airlines or her own "big jet" she's going to buy. She said it though as if all you could fly is a American Airlines airplane or her own jet. I told her she probably wouldn't get her own jet unless she became rich or/and famous but she said she will work a lot and get it. I guess people don't have a sense of what real life is like.

I can't thank JC enough for putting me in the right track and giving me more and more knowledge. I know nothing compared to you guys but thats why I am learning from all of you. I don't know why I feel this way, but I get really irritated when people talk some really stupid stuff about aviation. I guess now I know how you guys feel when I say something stupid. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cwm27.gif
 
Bri,

This will hold true for whatever you do in life, not just aviation. There will always be aspects of different fields which everyone is ignorant on. The important thing is NOT to grow a big head and think that you DO know everything about everything (you already have this mindset, good /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif).

For example, last saturday on my way back to school in Orlando, I was sitting in the Nashville Airport at a sports themed resturant watching the Ryder Cup on tv. As I was sitting there enjoying my Whits BBQ sandwhich (mmmm....oh sorry i got sidetracked), some guy sits at the table next to me and starts talking up some BS of how he's played this Ryder cup's host course and all of the other top notch golf courses in the Boston area. This year's Ryder Cup was played outside Detroit /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif. He also said some incorrect facts about the event which further proved he had no idea what he was talking about.

Not wanting to start a long conversation which would lead to nowhere, I simply nodded my head in respect. I knew he was wrong, but I didn't want to upstage him. Sometimes that is the more appropriate thing to do.

Sorry if that story doesn't make any sense....I just had like 4 shots of espresso because I'm about to pull an all nighter /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/insane.gif
 
It makes perfect sense. And you handled the situation better than me. But when it comes to aviation no matter how hard I try, I have to tell the person that they are wrong and what the real fact actually is. I'm not saying I would do this for everything. But when someone says that the Army has the A-10s and that they are joining the army to fly it... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/argue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/insane.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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But when someone says that the Army has the A-10s and that they are joining the army to fly it... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/argue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/insane.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Well wont they be surprised when they get there ;-)
 
There are two types of situations when people say something that is wrong. One-they know better and are lying or showing off, in which case, tell them they are wrong if you want. Two-some one else told them information that was wrong, or they don't have the information they need but are filling in the blanks with a fantasy or a guess. If that is the case, some times you need to let it be. In the case of the girl, who gives a crap if she has a fantasy of owning her own plane? Why squash her little dream? Who cares if it is realistic or not? Have you ever noticed that the most successful people in life have stories of "so and so told me I could never accomplish this, but here I am"?? Why not just smile and be supportive and say "that's an awesome dream, good luck with it"? Instead, you look like a jerk cause you had to be the one to tell her it wouldn't happen.

And if it's just a matter of the person having been told wrong, remember that everything you know in life, you know because some one told you. If I told you that Big Macs are $0.99 on Mondays, and some one else told Joe that Big Macs are $1.50 on Mondays, well, some one of course is wrong. I like to be QUITE certain that I am right BEFORE I open my mouth, cause nothing can make you feel worse then having some one else prove you wrong, after you realize YOU were the one with the bad info. But if you know you are right, say so, but don't rip the guy a new one just cause you know your right and he's not. Understand that he got some bad info and respectfuly let him know you are pretty sure they are only $0.99. (Using the words "pretty sure" is a good way to be nice instead of sounding like an arrogant jerk, and you still leave some room JUST IN CASE you happen to be wrong, which is possible.) If you can learn THIS lesson Brian, you will be even farther ahead in life. And also remember that always having to be right is a lonely place to be.
 
Michelle/Brian,

This is a military forum, not a Dr. Phil or Oprah social-worker section....


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Well I didn't put the thread here! I just replied! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif He started it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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If that is the case, some times you need to let it be. In the case of the girl, who gives a crap if she has a fantasy of owning her own plane? Why squash her little dream? Who cares if it is realistic or not? Have you ever noticed that the most successful people in life have stories of "so and so told me I could never accomplish this, but here I am"?? Why not just smile and be supportive and say "that's an awesome dream, good luck with it"? Instead, you look like a jerk cause you had to be the one to tell her it wouldn't happen.


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Damn that. That idiot girl needs to be brought back to reality. Screw the nice talk....tell it like it is. Sometimes the truth hurts. Her therapist will tell her how to deal with the rejection later.

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And if it's just a matter of the person having been told wrong, remember that everything you know in life, you know because some one told you. If I told you that Big Macs are $0.99 on Mondays, and some one else told Joe that Big Macs are $1.50 on Mondays, well, some one of course is wrong.

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If you're dumb enough to believe something just because somebody told you, no matter how much "faith" you have in that person, then you're a dumb$hit too (not you specifically Thewife). Any information can be verified, and if you don't wanna do the work of verifying the information, I'm gonna go out of my way to make sure you look like an idiot in front of everybody.
 
Ahhh, but all verified information came from some one didn't it? Every thing we know can be traced back to some one else who decided it in the first place. I once was sure of something because I had read it in a text book. I later found out the book was wrong. People don't just go around verifying information all day. That doesn't mean it's cool to act like a know it all cause you can prove someone wrong. Guess my approach is the nice, civilized, respectful one that contributes to happy feelings and world peace, and your approach is the one that leaves people to think you were a jerk.
 
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People don't just go around verifying information all day.


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Some of us do...it's called "thinking" and "research".... It's the basic principle of our education system.

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That doesn't mean it's cool to act like a know it all cause you can prove someone wrong.


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Better to do that and keep that person from looking like a dummy. I consider myself "helping" the poor soul....

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Guess my approach is the nice, civilized, respectful one that contributes to happy feelings and world peace, and your approach is the one that leaves people to think you were a jerk.

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It doesn't have to be that way....if someone just ensures that they don't say anything stupid around me, I won't have to be a jerk and tell them how stupid they sound!!
 
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