"Ice Pilots" New Reality TV Show

TallFlyer said:
So a Canadian regs question:

The show makes it appear like they're letting a 'rampie' get into a pilot's seat and fly the aircraft. I know under Pt. 135 you couldn't even put a non-crewmember in the seat let alone let them manipulate the controls.....

I assume (hope?) the same is true in Canada?
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from what I gather, every "rampie" is already a commercial pilot. they just have to Pay their dues and start at the bottom.

I was curious about the part 135 requirements. Of course, at least one of the newbies in ep 1 or 2 had 2-3k hours I think. I guess we dont know for sure how much experience/time they have.

It's a good question. I would like to know more about their regs, and the newbies qualifications.
 
So I downloaded Firefox, got Foxyproxy, entered the new proxy, and when I go to History.ca I am still only getting the trailers.. I need some help, I am computer knowledge challenged...

edit: AHHHHH... Got it working, I is so smarts...
 
wjmiller3 said:
So I downloaded Firefox, got Foxyproxy, entered the new proxy, and when I go to History.ca I am still only getting the trailers.. I need some help, I am computer knowledge challenged...
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I do not even need the CA proxy to see the links for the full episodes. Once on page history.ca top center their as an ad that flips through three shows. Ice Pilots, cold blood, and convoy. When its on ice pilots at the bottom of the description it should say in red watch full episodes. click that, on the next page scroll down and there should be links to all 5 epsiodes. This is when I change to the CA proxy. If I turn on the CA proxy before that all I ever get is the download adobe 8 pink screen.
 
mooneyguy said:
from what I gather, every "rampie" is already a commercial pilot. they just have to Pay their dues and start at the bottom.

I was curious about the part 135 requirements. Of course, at least one of the newbies in ep 1 or 2 had 2-3k hours I think. I guess we dont know for sure how much experience/time they have.

It's a good question. I would like to know more about their regs, and the newbies qualifications.
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Being a commercial pilot has nothing to do with it. If it is a pt 135 leg then the pilot must be on the operating certificate, which means passing a checkride with the FAA. Of course this is FAA rules and they are in Canada but I am sure they are similar.
 
mooneyguy said:
I do not even need the CA proxy to see the links for the full episodes. Once on page history.ca top center their as an ad that flips through three shows. Ice Pilots, cold blood, and convoy. When its on ice pilots at the bottom of the description it should say in red watch full episodes. click that, on the next page scroll down and there should be links to all 5 epsiodes. This is when I change to the CA proxy. If I turn on the CA proxy before that all I ever get is the download adobe 8 pink screen.
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So episode 5 is out now? Time to go... :pop:
 
subpilot said:
Being a commercial pilot has nothing to do with it. If it is a pt 135 leg then the pilot must be on the operating certificate, which means passing a checkride with the FAA. Of course this is FAA rules and they are in Canada but I am sure they are similar.
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Yeah I understand that, It seemed the post I replied to that it was implying the rampies where just that, rampies.

I would be interested in knowing what there experience level is, and what exactly they are being hired as when they come into the company. also what the regs in CA say, I would guess they are also very similar to ours.

Obviously we dont get any of that info in the show. I guess its really irrelevant, its a cool show to watch.:D
 
mooneyguy said:
from what I gather, every "rampie" is already a commercial pilot. they just have to Pay their dues and start at the bottom.

I was curious about the part 135 requirements. Of course, at least one of the newbies in ep 1 or 2 had 2-3k hours I think. I guess we dont know for sure how much experience/time they have.

It's a good question. I would like to know more about their regs, and the newbies qualifications.
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Take a look at this:

http://www.buffaloairways.com/employment.htm

Right seat only requires 250 hours. So it seems like people get hired somewhat close to the mins, work courier/ramp duties, and eventually make their way up.
 
Viewers will also watch the drama unfold as pilots fresh out of flight school pay their dues as "rampies," anxious for a chance at flying. Rampies load cargo, sweep snow off the wings and log hours as flight attendants, competing fiercely with one another for the next coveted copilot position. Friendships among pilots are also tested as they compete for enough flight hours to make captain. By the end of the season, someone will be leaving Buffalo Airways.
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Well, doing a little research on my own:

Buffalo airways would be a '705' operation, as it looks to operate airplanes over 19,000 lbs MTOW.

Now, here's 705.106:

CARs said:
Pilot Qualifications

705.106 (1) Subject to subsection (3), no air operator shall permit a person to act and no person shall act as the pilot-in-command, second-in-command or cruise relief pilot of an aircraft unless the person

(a) holds the licence, ratings and endorsements required by Part IV;

(b) within the previous 90 days,

(i) has completed at least three take-offs and three landings as the pilot at the controls and one sector assigned to duty as a flight crew member in an aircraft of that type,

(ii) has completed five sectors assigned to duty as a flight crew member in an aircraft of that type, or

(iii) has fulfilled the training requirements set out in the Commercial Air Service Standards;

(c) has successfully completed a pilot proficiency check, the validity period of which has not expired, for that type of aircraft, in accordance with the Commercial Air Service Standards;

(d) has successfully completed or is undergoing a line check or line indoctrination training, the validity period of which has not expired, for that type of aircraft, in accordance with the Commercial Air Service Standards; and

(e) has fulfilled the requirements of the air operator's training program.

(2) A pilot who does not meet the requirements of subparagraph (1)(b)(i) or (ii) shall regain competency in accordance with the Commercial Air Service Standards.

(3) An air operator may permit a person to act and a person may act as the pilot-in-command or second-in-command of an aircraft where the person does not meet the requirements of subsection (1), if

(a) the aircraft is operated on a training, ferry or positioning flight; or

(b) the air operator

(i) is authorized to do so in its air operator certificate, and

(ii) complies with the Commercial Air Service Standards.

(4) A pilot shall, on successful completion of a pilot proficiency check, meet the requirements of the consolidation period in accordance with the Commercial Air Service Standards.
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Ok, screw the C-46/DC-4, I want to see them fly the Cansos!

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Probably not a winter freight aircraft though....
 
In reference to CAR's 'Canadian Aviation Reg's', 704/705 is not comparable to 121/135 in the sense that you might think.

In order to site right seat in a 12,500 or heavier you need a commercial certificate (license in Canada) and complete a written exam IATRA. (for commercial ops).

Like someone stated earlier most rampies are commercially rated pilots, so allowing them to sit right seat on empty legs isn't a big deal.
 
Just finished watching episode 5! I am soo hooked on this show. I hope they continue to produce it for at least a couple seasons.
 
patthepilot said:
How did you get the videos below 200MB? I've got episode 5 but it's 318MB. If the transferbigfiles.com site would work I could post a link but something is wrong with them.
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Those are the original files you posted. I've got a premium account at rapidshare, so i can upload bigger files i guess.

About Ep. 5, the quality is terrible :( I hope you can upload it in the quality you did with the others.

Try Megaupload.com,should be able to upload much bigger files there.
It will also stay there for at least 21 days after the last download as an unregistered user.
 
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