HR915..beginning of pay-2-play?

Basically since AOPA is doing absolutely nothing anymore so if your medical costs 42$ and you save the 39$ from AOPA dues, it cost you 3$. I can live with that.
 
Sure, but I only pay the state of Mississippi $5 every 3 years for the privilege of driving here. And that license at least has my picture on it. In order to cover the cost of ONE misplaced FAA license, that would be 15 years worth of living here.

You're in Mississippi. A lot of places charge more. It's $30 to renew your license here in Maryland. And it'll run you $138 to register your car for two years.

Regardless, it seems like there's general agreement on how it's okay to charge to register your airplane or to get a new certificate. Now we're quibbling about the amount that gets charged.

The consensus seems to be that these charges, while they are user fees, are okay. Fees to shoot an approach or to use ATC services are not.
 
I see the union's point on getting a lot now and trying to change the fees later.

I didn't mean change it later, I meant change it in the bill before it goes for a floor vote. This bill will change a few dozen times before it actually gets a final vote on the floor. If you've paid off *ahem* I mean contributed to the campaigns ;) of the right people, then you can sometimes get this stuff stripped out of a bill before it goes to a vote. There's a reason we have lobbyists and a PAC.

But isn't this letting the camel get its nose under the tent? I hope the fees can get stripped out before it passes. I personally don't see the fees being stopped once they get put in place...

In the grand scheme of things, it's a tiny issue. Getting something like this negotiated into a contract so the company has to pay is pretty damned easy. Hell, some airlines already have it. Getting all of the other improvements is the big thing.
 
You're in Mississippi. A lot of places charge more. It's $30 to renew your license here in Maryland. And it'll run you $138 to register your car for two years.

True, but it costs me as much each YEAR to renew my car as it does to renew yours in Maryland for two years. In Florida, it would cost me $27, AND they have no state income tax. Florida has more toll roads, however, so that's where they get a lot of their road repair dollars. Mississippi roads suck, which may have something to do with their tax revenues. Don't know about the roads in Maryland. It starts breaking down to CoL in the state. Can't really do that for a FEDERAL license. Why the huge jump in fees? Shouldn't the FAA be bleeding cash for years if the fee to replace a license needs to be jacked by 1200%?

Regardless, it seems like there's general agreement on how it's okay to charge to register your airplane or to get a new certificate. Now we're quibbling about the amount that gets charged.

I'm okay with a RATIONAL raise in the fee. I understand costs increase over time, but I'm not willing to subsidize budget missteps because some Congressman wants a new terminal for his hometown airport that doesn't even have scheduled air service.

The consensus seems to be that these charges, while they are user fees, are okay. Fees to shoot an approach or to use ATC services are not.

And I agree with that as well. Just needs to be rational.
 
In the grand scheme of things, it's a tiny issue. Getting something like this negotiated into a contract so the company has to pay is pretty damned easy. Hell, some airlines already have it. Getting all of the other improvements is the big thing.


It'll be a cold day in hell before Trenary and Co agree to pay for our existing medicals, much less any new fees that happen to creep up. Now, if we can get a backdoor clause in their BEFORE the fees hit or even before management catches wind of it, that might work.
 
You're in Mississippi. A lot of places charge more. It's $30 to renew your license here in Maryland. And it'll run you $138 to register your car for two years.

Call it what it really is - a TAX. You are being taxed for your car, not because the registration inherently costs anything.

Our car registrations in FL doubled in price last month. Not because the cost of registering cars changed, but because the state wasn't taking in enough other tax revenue.
 
Hey, at least these fees aren't as bad as some other fees they want to implement. I can avoid having to pay most of these (since I am not in the market for an airplane right now and the only other one I'd have to pay for is the medical). And anyways, if someone is going to buy a $300,000 plane, I think they'd have the money for those fees, but idk. I'm just grateful that the fees aren't something that would affect me on every flight.
 
if user fees were to be established for shooting approaches there is no way in the world i'd continue to train could never rationalize the amount of money you'd spend on it
 
It costs money to issue a new certificate or to register an airplane. You pay money to the state to get a driver's license or to register your car. This is no different.

There is a big difference between these kinds of fees and things like charging to shoot an approach or to file a flight plan.

You have a good point. I just see this snow-balling into more and more fee's to be assessed later on.
 
It costs money to issue a new certificate or to register an airplane. You pay money to the state to get a driver's license or to register your car. This is no different.

There is a big difference between these kinds of fees and things like charging to shoot an approach or to file a flight plan.

I agree. This is really nothing to complain about. We had it cheap for a long time.
 
The cheapest place around where I live is 95 dollars. Another 42 puts it at 135. At least the docs put it at a moderate increase if it was up to them.

And cant wait to see where you have to get the airman certificate, credit card methods of IACRA.
 
Hey if you think these fees are bad, you should see the fees the Coast Guard charges shipdrivers for their credentials....
 
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