How to get a job referral from JC.

Does your boss have a daughter that is of age?:rotfl:J/K

This thread should be sticky'ed. Great write up.
 
Why do some people feel it necessary to have a JC "alter ego." Be who you are in real life on the forums, on the phone, etc. I am frankly sick of hearing this on these forums. If you can't be yourself here, than don't bother showing up here IMHO. I just can't stand that crap!

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how about that!
 
Her hotness is intrinsically linked to the coolness of the airframe.

"intrinsically"? Or did you mean "inversely"?

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Pretty good list. I've offered to write recommendations for several people here whenever they have the quals to apply. The common threads for the people that get the offer?

1. I need to recognize your screen name. Just having a certain number of posts isn't good enough. If you've got 5,000 posts, but they're all in the Lav, then I probably won't remember you, and I can't vouch for someone that I can't remember.

2. Be pro-union. Sorry, but I'm not going to recommend someone that isn't going to pull on our end of the rope.

3. Present yourself intelligently. Like some people said above, if you can't use proper spelling, punctuation, and grammar here, then you'll probably screw up your interview or your application, and that reflects poorly on me. "Text speak" is not a valid way to write unless you're actually texting, and even then it's questionable.

4. Don't have any posts in your history that cast a bad light on my airline. I actually had someone call me and say "hey, I got turned down at Delta and United, so I guess I'm down to the third string. Can you help me out with a recommendation at your airline?" Seriously? If you can't show some respect for the airline and demonstrate that you really want to work here, then I don't want you here. I'm no "company man," obviously, but this is where I've always wanted to work, and I want people around that feel the same. Not people that are using it as a backup job.
 
I've walked several resumes in to my boss for guys here, and so have many others. But I've also been spammed by guys I don't even know asking me to give them an inside track to a job. Now that good jobs are starting to become available here's a few tips on how to get your resume seen by the right people.

1. Have a post count over single digits. Sorry lurkers, if I've never heard of you, or seen you make any contribution to this site, then why on earth would I go the extra mile for you.

2. Don't be a jerk. "But he's a real nice guy in real life." I hope so, but again why would I stick my neck out for somebody who can't be civil with the others on this site. I don't have to agree with you religious/political/union views as long as we can discuss them like adults.

3. Learn to write in English. Pay attention to the grammar/spelling police when they call you out. They are trying to help you. Keep txt tlk to a minimum, it's hard for us technology dinosaurs to understand.

4. Meet the minimums for the job in question. No matter how much I like you I can't change the FAA's 135 minimums. And, no corporate outfit is going to lower theirs unless you are married to the bosses daughter.


You would be amazed how many people can't follow these simple steps.

Great Post! :clap:

:beer::beer::beer:

Plus giving a person a recommendation can be a pretty big deal at many companies.
Great post!

Exaclty, I just got burned 2x times this year. I talked to a few guys and get xyz people interviews and one turns down the job after getting a class date and the other turns down the interview when called after begging me to get him/her one...WTF

All of my prior recommendations have done well and made me proud until now.

Can you pay it forward too much? I am going to have a hard time getting mgmt to take any of my future recs seriously now.
 
Pretty good list. I've offered to write recommendations for several people here whenever they have the quals to apply. The common threads for the people that get the offer?

1. I need to recognize your screen name. Just having a certain number of posts isn't good enough. If you've got 5,000 posts, but they're all in the Lav, then I probably won't remember you, and I can't vouch for someone that I can't remember.

Makes sense.

2. Be pro-union. Sorry, but I'm not going to recommend someone that isn't going to pull on our end of the rope.

But what if they want a recommendation for a job like corporate or 135 cargo from you.....nothing that has anything to do with unions?

3. Present yourself intelligently. Like some people said above, if you can't use proper spelling, punctuation, and grammar here, then you'll probably screw up your interview or your application, and that reflects poorly on me. "Text speak" is not a valid way to write unless you're actually texting, and even then it's questionable.

Makes sense.

4. Don't have any posts in your history that cast a bad light on my airline. I actually had someone call me and say "hey, I got turned down at Delta and United, so I guess I'm down to the third string. Can you help me out with a recommendation at your airline?" Seriously? If you can't show some respect for the airline and demonstrate that you really want to work here, then I don't want you here. I'm no "company man," obviously, but this is where I've always wanted to work, and I want people around that feel the same. Not people that are using it as a backup job.

C'mon now. You and I both know that comparing 121 to 121 is like finding who's the most retarded kid on the short bus. :)
 
But what if they want a recommendation for a job like corporate or 135 cargo from you.....nothing that has anything to do with unions?

Doesn't matter. It's all about attitude. If you're against the concept that people should collectively work together to better their lot in life, then you're not the kind of guy that I want in a cockpit where it's all about teamwork.

C'mon now. You and I both know that comparing 121 to 121 is like finding who's the most retarded kid on the short bus. :)

My retard is better than your retard! ;)
 
Doesn't matter. It's all about attitude. If you're against the concept that people should collectively work together to better their lot in life, then you're not the kind of guy that I want in a cockpit where it's all about teamwork.

My retard is better than your retard! ;)

Cool! That's what its all about. :)

Seriously though, I hear ya. Everyone has reasons for giving a rec or not that are personal or specific to them. Gotta love the gall though....."am down to third string now". And what made him think he was going to get a rec for that? Some people......:banghead:

Btw......if you want a recommendation from me for anything, you got it. Just for the fact that you appreciate a fine cut of steak, served sizzling in butter. That in and of itself is respectable. :)
 
This is a great thread for some younger guys. I have never even thought about asking guys on here for a recommendation. I have only ever thought to ask people that I really know. Maybe I need to rethink that.
 
Pretty good list. I've offered to write recommendations for several people here whenever they have the quals to apply. The common threads for the people that get the offer?

1. I need to recognize your screen name. Just having a certain number of posts isn't good enough. If you've got 5,000 posts, but they're all in the Lav, then I probably won't remember you, and I can't vouch for someone that I can't remember.

2. Be pro-union. Sorry, but I'm not going to recommend someone that isn't going to pull on our end of the rope.

3. Present yourself intelligently. Like some people said above, if you can't use proper spelling, punctuation, and grammar here, then you'll probably screw up your interview or your application, and that reflects poorly on me. "Text speak" is not a valid way to write unless you're actually texting, and even then it's questionable.

4. Don't have any posts in your history that cast a bad light on my airline. I actually had someone call me and say "hey, I got turned down at Delta and United, so I guess I'm down to the third string. Can you help me out with a recommendation at your airline?" Seriously? If you can't show some respect for the airline and demonstrate that you really want to work here, then I don't want you here. I'm no "company man," obviously, but this is where I've always wanted to work, and I want people around that feel the same. Not people that are using it as a backup job.


That all seems more than reasonable to me. I dont work at a union operator, but we're so small that being able to fit in and get a long with the group is akin to pulling the line.

The third string thing works at all levels also. It doesnt help your cause to say "Im so tired of instructing im willing to do anything." I know a lot of people look at pistons as a stepping stone, but it at least helps to feign some kind of interest in the job. I actually love my job flying tin cans around and falling in the water, so its really kind of insulting when someone says theyd like to work for your company until they can find something better.
 
Pretty good list. I've offered to write recommendations for several people here whenever they have the quals to apply. The common threads for the people that get the offer?

1. I need to recognize your screen name. Just having a certain number of posts isn't good enough. If you've got 5,000 posts, but they're all in the Lav, then I probably won't remember you, and I can't vouch for someone that I can't remember.

2. Be pro-union. Sorry, but I'm not going to recommend someone that isn't going to pull on our end of the rope.

3. Present yourself intelligently. Like some people said above, if you can't use proper spelling, punctuation, and grammar here, then you'll probably screw up your interview or your application, and that reflects poorly on me. "Text speak" is not a valid way to write unless you're actually texting, and even then it's questionable.

4. Don't have any posts in your history that cast a bad light on my airline. I actually had someone call me and say "hey, I got turned down at Delta and United, so I guess I'm down to the third string. Can you help me out with a recommendation at your airline?" Seriously? If you can't show some respect for the airline and demonstrate that you really want to work here, then I don't want you here. I'm no "company man," obviously, but this is where I've always wanted to work, and I want people around that feel the same. Not people that are using it as a backup job.

Todd, I actually have to give you credit. While I've never much disagreed with your message in the past, in my opinion the way in which it was presented was often very off turning. I've noticed a big change in that recently. I've also noticed a lot less threads of people arguing with you for the sake of arguing. I think they're related!

Just thought that was worth being recognized.
 
4. Don't have any posts in your history that cast a bad light on my airline. I actually had someone call me and say "hey, I got turned down at Delta and United, so I guess I'm down to the third string. Can you help me out with a recommendation at your airline?" Seriously? If you can't show some respect for the airline and demonstrate that you really want to work here, then I don't want you here. I'm no "company man," obviously, but this is where I've always wanted to work, and I want people around that feel the same. Not people that are using it as a backup job.

I've seen that a lot with my current gig. I offered to walk more than a few resumes in, only to be rebuffed by those who felt that going and flying a 402 was beneath them. Well, after those guys couldn't find their vaunted jet job, they came back asking for referrals. Guess how that went?

Great post, OP. I agree 100%.
 
"intrinsically"? Or did you mean "inversely"?

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(If you'll excuse the crass analogy)
I think he meant intrinsically....a "4" who's daddy owns a King Air might be a "6"
but a "4" who's daddy owns a Citation 10 might be an "8"
and a "4" who's daddy owns a G5 would magically become a "10"
 
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