How the pilots of today acquired their multi time?

berge7f9

berge7f9

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For all of those people who are currently flying in the regionals or majors:

How did you acquire your multi-time?
Through flight instruction? if so how long did it take to build those hours and where you did so?
Through paying for it in some sort of time-building program? If so, during your airline interview, was it a major issue?

Any other methods not mentioned?

How long did the process take?

Anyone with opinions or advice to share with the CFIs (almost in my case) and professional pilots of tomorrow (hopefully), please chime in and let your voice be heard

berge7f9 of ERAU Daytona
 
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For all of those people who are currently flying in the regionals or majors:

How did you acquire your multi-time?


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MEI. I've built 100 paid hours or so in 7 months.

Oh yeah, it is acting PIC too.
 
right now i have my MEI but at the school i teach at does not have a multi. pretty much everywhere in NY you cannot find a multi. there is one place and i really don't want to have to buy the multi time but i just might have too.

adam
 
Me too. About 250 hours of "ZERO sideslip!!!" And.."Straight and 88 (initial seminole target), Mixtures, Props, Throttles, Gear Up, Flaps Up, Identify, Verify, Decide (Feather)." At least I think that's how it went, right?

Now its just, "Set MAX thrust." (V1 cut) I miss the seminole sometimes.
 
Simply moved up from single engine 135 to multi engine 135 at the same company.
 
MEI. A little over 1000 multi hours in 20 months. I was an instructor in Richmond VA and Las Vegas. I'd go to a flight school that is focused on multi training and then try to instruct for them. ATP, UND, FlightSafety come to mind.
 
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Any other methods not mentioned?



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You could always scare yourself flying 135 freight.

Look into outfits like flight express/airnet/ram air/etc... All of these require little to no multi time.
After flying freight in a multi you'll be more than ready for the airlines.
 
Renting twins with all my spare money. I have 0.0 hours of dual given in a twin. Then again, I only had my MEI for 2 months before I moved on. Still, there were no takers on Multi-Instruction at my flight school during those two months, and I wasn't insurance qualified on the type of twin we DID have at that point (they sold the seneca and baron, the two planes I trained in, leaving only a grumman cougar which I was going to have to somehow acquire 25 hrs in before I could instruct).

About 50 hours of my multi time I count towards training for the Multi-Comm and Multi-Instructor. The rest came from flying to visit relatives, flying a twin instead of the airlines to vacations, etc. It helped that our flight school rented the twins to its CFI's for about half price, still wet. I probably blew about 5k over 2 years in personal rentals.

This was not really a structured "time building" program. It was simply me renting airplanes for the purpose of transportation. No one asked me how I got my multi time during my airline interview. They asked me systems questions about the baron and the seneca and that's about it.
 
Mr. Creepy chose several paths to gain his Creepy ME time:

1) Renting twins and flying them whenever I had spare cash
1a) Going through the ME and MEI training stage got me around 15 hrs right there.
2) Hanging around the airport and thumbing rides whenever there was an empty right seat. Yes I logged it. Who cares? A lot of the time I got to sit in the left seat, always on empty legs and even occasionally when pax were in the back. These were all part 91. I never got to ride along with any 135 flights until I was a 135 pilot.
3) MEI. I built up most of my early hours here.
4) Charter. Convinced a student to buy a C-414A and put it on a 135 cert.

Mr. Creepy - over and out!
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2) Hanging around the airport and thumbing rides whenever there was an empty right seat. Yes I logged it. Who cares? A lot of the time I got to sit in the left seat, always on empty legs and even occasionally when pax were in the back. These were all part 91. I never got to ride along with any 135 flights until I was a 135 pilot.


Mr. Creepy - over and out!
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Were you acting as safety pilot when you were logging this time?
 
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Were you acting as safety pilot when you were logging this time?

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I did for part of my ME time and it worked just fine for me.

Got my ME and rented occasionally but needed an extra 60 hours to get to that 100ME mark. (I am not a CFI.) Did that time in a CRM multi building program, met mins and got two interviews. I was offered a job by both airlines. (I believe I even mentioned the CRM program on my resume to fill it up....yeah geeky but I got a job).
 
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Did that time in a CRM multi building program,

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Is that the one with 3 people in an aztec all logging PIC?
 
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Did that time in a CRM multi building program,

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Is that the one with 3 people in an aztec all logging PIC?

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I have no idea if the observer in the back logged "P-51 time". Nor is it my concern as long as I appropriately logged my time. IMO, safety pilot time in this kind of program is really a learning experience compared to a non-CRM safety pilot scenario. The PNF has a high workload, esp in the LA basin. It turned out to be a valuable experience for me when I went into my sim training. (Interestingly, another person I flew in the program with was hired two months prior to me.)
 
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I have no idea if the observer in the back logged "P-51 time". Nor is it my concern as long as I appropriately logged my time. IMO, safety pilot time in this kind of program is really a learning experience compared to a non-CRM safety pilot scenario. The PNF has a high workload, esp in the LA basin. It turned out to be a valuable experience for me when I went into my sim training. (Interestingly, another person I flew in the program with was hired two months prior to me.)

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Just asking. I fly an aztruck around the LA basin dang near everyday. Workload isn't too much too handle with two hands. I asked about it because I've recently been hearing about this particular situation and I wasn't sure if it was Lenair that was doing it or not. Sounds kinda sketchy if you ask me, but hey, whatever floats your boat.
 
I got lucky right out of college and got on with a flight academy that threw students at you. There were only 3-4 of us that had our MEI certificate so we got all the multi students and all the commercial, instrument, etc To this day I have not taught a private pilot from start to finish....

Greg
 
Got 70 or so through the course of my training, then begged, borrowed, and stole (and saved, I suppose) enough money to buy some block time in a Seneca while I CFI'd in singles (no twin at our school). Split some of it with a coworker (my then-girlfriend, now wife) and went on some cross-country flights. Had 102 when I got hired at a regional prior to 9/11.

In my 4 successful airline interviews, I was never asked about how I got my multi-time or given a hard time that I "bought" some of it. I would rather have done the MEI route, but it wasn't an option at my school. I'm glad I did it and only wish I had done it sooner.

I know one individual who was significantly short on his total time who bought a C-152 to fly around for a couple hundred hours since he was flying very little as a CFI. That guy got hired at a large regional months before he would have had he sat around waiting to build his time. Whatever you do, be proactive.
 
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