How long before this ends badly?

SteveCostello said:
I think his point was that if you drop the retardant from that height, not much of it would actually hit the ground in a way that would be at all effective.

Of course, I could be totally wrong, and I just need to STFU and drink my coffee :)
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that was my point...thanks for deciphering it for me! I want coffee!
 
The 747 VLAT T-979 is no more. Parked at my field at KMZJ with engines being removed; likely headed with its sister Evergreen -200s to the scrap area across the runway.
 
In general, VLATs have their place as a tool in the firefighting toolbox. Can't be used in all areas, can be used great in others. Can't operate from many smaller fields the lighter planes can, but carried a huge payload. Is expensive as heck to contract, even being on CWN status. So it all depends what it's being used for.
 
Tanker 910 and 911 both currently operating out of Castle for the Rim Fire. I guess 910 started its career in 1975 as a National Sun King, then to Pan Am, American, Hawaiian, Omni, and now fighting fires.

If a jet could write a book....

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they moved from MCC?


yep just checked AFF...they had been reloading out of MCC with the MAFFS...
 
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T/O w/FSII said:
Where is seggy to tell us how this is CLEARLY dangerous, give us some safety stats to compare this to 121, and tell everyone the equipment sucks?
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If you want to attempt to call me out, make sure you use the @ before my username.

Of course what the aerial firefighters do is dangerous, probably more so than flying in Alaska. However, I don't see the aerial firefighters making DVD videos proclaiming how great they are. The aerial firefighters do a great job and know they do WITHOUT needing to make a TV show/youtube page/DVD Series about it.
 
Seggy said:
If you want to attempt to call me out, make sure you use the @ before my username.

Of course what the aerial firefighters do is dangerous, probably more so than flying in Alaska. However, I don't see the aerial firefighters making DVD videos proclaiming how great they are. The aerial firefighters do a great job and know they do WITHOUT needing to make a TV show/youtube page/DVD Series about it.
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LOL, there are hours of air attack videos on the Internet. Some people actually find flying interesting and like to see it and share it. That's not showing off, it's just interesting. Not sure why that is hard to understand.
 
Seeing that DC10 drop that load looks like an absolute blast. It is so impressive seeing that large of an airplane down low doing things like that. It would definitely be one hell of a job! I know that it is no cake walk and is probably very demanding of a pilot in several different aspects.
 
Muff3n said:
Seeing that DC10 drop that load looks like an absolute blast. It is so impressive seeing that large of an airplane down low doing things like that. It would definitely be one hell of a job! I know that it is no cake walk and is probably very demanding of a pilot in several different aspects.
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Not only was it impressive to see a DC10 drop... well... anything, it was also impressive to see the thing get tossed around a bit in ways that you normally don't see an airliner get tossed around. All sorts of slips to and fro, climbing turns at steep bank and climb angles. Obviously it's no fighter jet, but I always thought it would be fun to wrangle a big aircraft around like that.
 
Cazadores said:
All the pilots I know who have flown the big Douglas say it is a superb handling airplane, and dont forget what the Fedex crew put one through in the fight with Auburn Calloway-they flew it like a fighter.
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I would support that statement. The -10 is a nice flying machine, and surprisingly nimble. In fact, I would go so far to say that what ever you could do in a 727-100 you can pretty much do in the -10.
 
wheelsup said:
Jesus mother of god, WHY?!?
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@wheelsup

Sometimes you just get behind. Some operators are already flying sunrise to sunset and any hiccup in the weather or the airplane breaking can put you in a position where you need to fly at night.

Where I grew up, the years when rice is heavily planted throughout the county, plenty of operators fertilize rice well after sunset simply to stay on schedule.

There is also the possibility that they could also be doing a "peak activity" application trying to spray when the pest is the most active.
 
rframe said:
LOL, there are hours of air attack videos on the Internet. Some people actually find flying interesting and like to see it and share it. That's not showing off, it's just interesting. Not sure why that is hard to understand.
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I don't see these air attack guys selling DVD series about themselves and getting profits from suck videos.
 
Seggy said:
I don't see these air attack guys selling DVD series about themselves and getting profits from suck videos.
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So now the problem is selling movies about it? And LOL @ you calling that bush pilot "suck" coming from a guy who has never even landed on grass? What a joke.

Seggy said:
If you want to attempt to call me out, make sure you use the @ before my username.

Of course what the aerial firefighters do is dangerous, probably more so than flying in Alaska. However, I don't see the aerial firefighters making DVD videos proclaiming how great they are. The aerial firefighters do a great job and know they do WITHOUT needing to make a TV show/youtube page/DVD Series about it.
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You must be blind or just ignorant. Did you miss the videos I posted? Did you miss the FIRST post in this thread?

Here is a whole youtube page
http://www.youtube.com/user/AAFAirtankerVideos?feature=watch

And another
http://www.youtube.com/user/firegroundaction?feature=watch

Aerial firefighting brings up 34 THOUSAND VIDEOS on youtube.
 
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