How hot is too hot for flight training?

Krieger

Krieger

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At what temp / density altitude do you guys ground your training flights? I find around 90 degrees my students are too damn uncomfortable to concentrate on anything.
 
Is there such a thing? (just kidding, there must be at some point)

I took an hour and a half of dual multi yesterday around 92 degrees and way in the 80% humidity range. Didn't realize it was hot till I was finished. I was soaked when I got out of the plane but for some reason, (altitude of 3000 for most of the training was a little cooler) I didn't seem to notice much discomfort while I was concentrating on checklists/flying etc.
 
We're consistently in the 100 degree range with high humidity here in Houston. We never cancel cause it's hot. Just something you have to deal with to get the training accomplished.

Usually soaking wet at the end of each flight. Drink lots of water....
 
web265 said:
Is there such a thing? (just kidding, there must be at some point)

I took an hour and a half of dual multi yesterday around 92 degrees and way in the 80% humidity range. Didn't realize it was hot till I was finished. I was soaked when I got out of the plane but for some reason, (altitude of 3000 for most of the training was a little cooler) I didn't seem to notice much discomfort while I was concentrating on checklists/flying etc.
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Don't worry your CFI did for you.
 
Krieger said:
At what temp / density altitude do you guys ground your training flights? I find around 90 degrees my students are too damn uncomfortable to concentrate on anything.
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You fly out of SMO. It doesn't get hot there. Stay out over the ocean just south of Pt Mugu and you'll be fine. Otherwise, you'll be grounded all summer.
 
We stop flying when the mercury hits 40 deg C. That's as high as the performance charts for a C172 go and all planes(minus the Duchesses) are grounded at that time.
 
Oh not that he was green around the gills, but what you do once every day or two, he does 2-5 times a day every day. We notice.
 
When you look like you just took a swim after a flight, I would say it might be a little too warm :cool:

Unless you live in the southeast where the air feels like steam...
 
LOC-D said:
We stop flying when the mercury hits 40 deg C. That's as high as the performance charts for a C172 go and all planes(minus the Duchesses) are grounded at that time.
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Oh that argument again. :pop:

Edit to add: I guess all those airplanes flying in and out of Vegas during the summer are breaking regs then?
 
We keep flying when it is over 100. It is brutal on me, my poor Alaskan body doesnt like it at all. Atleast there is no humidity. :)
 
We have quite a few 100 degree days here in the summer, no reason to ground flights. Phoenix, Texas, and Vegas deal with it on a daily basis. Nice thing about commercial students is you just chandelle your way up and do all the other maneuvers at altitude, then fail their engine or do a steep spiral down. Now pattern work I just open the windows, and that is as good as it will get.
 
LOC-D said:
We stop flying when the mercury hits 40 deg C. That's as high as the performance charts for a C172 go and all planes(minus the Duchesses) are grounded at that time.
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I doubt you're beyond the capabilities of a 172 when it's 40C in Socal.
 
R Banger said:
We have quite a few 100 degree days here in the summer, no reason to ground flights. Phoenix, Texas, and Vegas deal with it on a daily basis. Nice thing about commercial students is you just chandelle your way up and do all the other maneuvers at altitude, then fail their engine or do a steep spiral down. Now pattern work I just open the windows, and that is as good as it will get.
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That's exactly how my commercial training has been going
 
Over 100 degrees in east texas doing ground reference manuevers in a twinstar for an hour...now that sucks. I can tell my performance decreases a ton throughout the flight and by the end I'm just ready to be done.
 
over 40 C - Good to Go - this was this afternoon, BTW...
 

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Heh your instructor has figured it out, it'll be even better when you get in a twin. At least the air flows faster than 100 knots in a twin.
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I prefer being in the singles. At least in the 172 I can open the window. We have zero airflow when buzzing around in our Seneca. It's brutal...
 
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