How does a street person apply?

Inverted25

Inverted25

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I am sure this has been covered but I can't seem to find the answers I am looking for. If someone who hasnt gone to one of the ATC schools wants to apply to be a controller how is this done? I was talking to a controller tonight who flies part time 135 out where I am and he said they are hiring people off the street but he didnt really tell me the process. I am a 20 year old pilot and just kinda curious as to how I could go about this process as a kind of second choice. I think being ATC might be a better route for me with the current industry conditions for pilots.
 
You'll find plenty of threads on here that cover the topic, but the basic process requires that you apply to an announcement called "Pubnat". The subtitle should say "Air Traffic Control Trainee" I believe.

You can check the ASAP page after you create an account, or continuously check on USA jobs, or even through the FAA site. Regardless, when a new announcement opens up, you will see multiple new threads open up to let everyone know, so you can't miss it if you keep up on here. There should be another one within the next month or so I imagine, as the last Pubnat annoucement just closed a few weeks ago.

Anyone can apply, so long as you have a batchelors or equivalent progressive work experience. Hope this answers your question.
 
If you score good on the AT-SAT what is the next step. Do you just go in a pool or do you have to keep reapplying? I know my buddy who went to beaver creek was in a pool sort of thing for like a year before he got cleveland center. But again he went to a ATC school so I imagine that its different. Now if you dont have a bachelors does it make more sense just to go to a ATC school or to just finish your bachelors? As in does going to a ATC school like beaver creek give you a edge?
 
Jbroz04 said:
If you score good on the AT-SAT what is the next step. Do you just go in a pool or do you have to keep reapplying? I know my buddy who went to beaver creek was in a pool sort of thing for like a year before he got cleveland center. But again he went to a ATC school so I imagine that its different. Now if you dont have a bachelors does it make more sense just to go to a ATC school or to just finish your bachelors? As in does going to a ATC school like beaver creek give you a edge?
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If you score well on the ATSAT, you began a very long waiting process to eventually wait and hear if you get selected for an interview. Expect to wait at least 6 months from the date of your application before you even hear if you've been selected. The locations you select in your geo preferences play a role in this as well, as the more controllers are needed in the locations you selected, the bettter your chances. Well Qualified scores are 85 and higher, and get first priority over simply "qualified" candidates.

If you do not have a batchelors, I believe you can substitute 4 years of "progressive work experience", or some combination of the 2.:panic: Going to ATC school will give you an edge in the training process, and you will get to skip the first 5 weeks of the training. (basics)
 
Jbroz04 said:
I am sure this has been covered but I can't seem to find the answers I am looking for. If someone who hasnt gone to one of the ATC schools wants to apply to be a controller how is this done? I was talking to a controller tonight who flies part time 135 out where I am and he said they are hiring people off the street but he didnt really tell me the process. I am a 20 year old pilot and just kinda curious as to how I could go about this process as a kind of second choice. I think being ATC might be a better route for me with the current industry conditions for pilots.
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what do you mean by "street person"?? are you a prostitute?? cause we dont take kindly to your kind around here.








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bippoptl only for you:nana2: haha I was just talking about someone who didnt go to one of the ATC schools
 
ATC RET 2003 said:
I envisioned a disheveled person standing on the corner with a cardboard sign that reads, "will vector for cash."
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Me too.

I was going to suggest that they'd have to get a degree or real job to meet the work/education requirements first. :)
 
Would it help to have internal references? My uncle retired from cleveland center and I could easily get letters of recomendation from him and his friends. Would this help?
 
Really? I am just used to the pilot world where you have to know the owner to get a job anymore haha. Worked for me at least. Does anyone know when the next application process will begin?
 
Jbroz04 said:
Really? I am just used to the pilot world where you have to know the owner to get a job anymore haha. Worked for me at least. Does anyone know when the next application process will begin?
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Keep in mind that this process takes a long time, at least 8 months and up to 18 months for some, from application to training day. Especially longer for those of us off the street, or OTS for short. I would guess the next PUBANT will be in Jan. or Feb. Form that, those that are worthy will be asked to take the AT-SAT.
 
Can you explain to me excatly what the requirments are as far as job experience and college. I have completed 3 years of college. And I have been working for alittle over a year. If I read it right though I need 4 years of college correct?
 
Jbroz04 said:
Can you explain to me excatly what the requirments are as far as job experience and college. I have completed 3 years of college. And I have been working for alittle over a year. If I read it right though I need 4 years of college correct?
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Minimum Qualifications : The maximum entry age for these positions is 30 years of age i.e., you must be hired prior to reaching your 31st birthday. Prior experience or training in air traffic control is not required. Applicants will be evaluated based on their responses to the online application. You may qualify for this position on the basis of work experience, college education, or a combination of both. To qualify based upon work experience, interested individuals must have three years of progressively responsible full-time (40 hours per week) experience that demonstrates the potential for learning. Progressively responsible experience might include for example: an increase in leadership duties, working with less supervision, or an increase in financial responsibility. You are encouraged to include any experience that is directly related to the air traffic control occupation. To qualify based upon education, applicants must have a full 4-year course of study leading to a bachelor's degree. You may also qualify by combining your work experience and college credits; one year of undergraduate study (30 semester hours or 45 quarter hours) is equivalent to 9 months of general work experience. Successful candidates must be able to speak English clearly enough to be understood over radios, intercoms, and similar communications equipment.
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