surreal1221
Well-Known Member
TFR's are bad news alone. . . and they are even worse news to all private pilots when government work is outsourced to a private company with no oversight authority to make sure they are doing their job right.
Hour long hold for a briefer
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flyer8
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(No oversight, haha):
TFaudree_ERAU
Mashin' dem buttons
A simple solution to that, as instructed by the POI at my last job, is to visit the FAA's TFR website and print out a copy of the TFRs in each state through which your flight will transit, even if nothing is active. Make sure the time and date is printed on the page so you can give valid proof that you checked just prior to your flight. If you aren't near a computer or printer, call someone you know on the phone and ask them to do it for you.
ComplexHiAv8r
Well-Known Member
Took about 10 minutes this morning for a briefing. This afternoon was around 40-45. How are emergancy flights getting briefed?
BillH
New Member
After they check out, they are making close to 75k a year. A lot of people that were in college in the CTI program to become ATC jumped ship and went to work for LM.
I had a tour of the Miami FSS. One word describes that job... BORING!
Honestly, it would be working towards a slow death.
flyer8
Well-Known Member
Usually mid-air, however if they are in contact with atc, atc let's them into tfr zones (again, usually).
This note is attached to many, if not all TFRs:
THIS RESTRICTION DOES NOT APPLY TO; (A THOSE AIRCRAFT AUTHORIZED BY ATC FOR OPERATIONAL OR SAFETY PURPOSES INCLUDING AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR DEPARTING FROM AN AIRPORT USING STANDARD AIR TRAFFIC PROCEDURES; (B DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, LAW ENFORCEMENT, OR AEROMEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATIONS THAT ARE IN CONTACT WITH ATC
Cessnaflyer
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
They have their own briefers. I should know the companies name but a simple google search doesn't bring up the info.
:yeahthat: from a briefer.
Talking to FSS is about as fun as :banghead:.
SmitteyB
Well-Known Member
Don't know if this is what happened but-
800WXBRIEF only works from landlines. Cell phones route it to the regional FSS where the cell phone owner resides.
IE- If I were to dial 800WXB...... I would actually get the Buffalo Automated Flight Service Station- no matter where on Earth I'm calling from.
Cessnaflyer
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
We use the direct number to the needed FSS and the wait is usually only a few seconds.
tonyw
Well-Known Member
Well, for those of us working with the ADIZ, we don't have a choice.
We've got to call a briefer to file an ADIZ plan. These are not something you can do with DUATS.
But I usually use the online systems and then file over the phone. I'll use the briefers to get the most up to date information but I prefer using the computer instead!
We've got to call a briefer to file an ADIZ plan. These are not something you can do with DUATS.
But I usually use the online systems and then file over the phone. I'll use the briefers to get the most up to date information but I prefer using the computer instead!
bdhill1979
Gone West
It is from a cell phone, my Local would be Cedar City FSS, but the call often gets routed to Great Falls, Boise, or LA. Then they give me crap about "calling the wrong FSS".
I know about the routing to where the cell phone is based, but again, how hard is it to make them all on the same network so it wouldnt matter where you call gets routed.
Hell, we could outsource it to India like a few of the jobs I used to have, would it REALLY matter?
Screaming_Emu
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yep, nothin like saying "I would like to file an ADIZ flightplan" and hearing them go "uhh...a what?" Not exactly an area I would like to have somebody screw up my flightplan. I also had them tell me that I was filed /x the other day. Which is fun when you're flying inside the DC ADIZ.
mtsu_av8er
Well-Known Member
That's not our problem - that's something that they need to fix. I've been hearing that excuse since 2000. It has gotten old!