Horizon to cut pay

DE727UPS said:
"Don, didn't UPS mgt want to lower pilot pay to "market" rates a while ago? What became of that?"

Ya know what's funny. When I first got hired at UPS they said we're not an airline, we're a package delivery company, and you can't compare yourselves to other "real" airline pilots. Now, they are saying the other airline pilots have taken cuts so ya'll shouldn't expect so much....

I'm not kidding.

But to answer your question. I'm not aware of them wanting to lower us to "market" rates. If FEDEX is the market, then we might be able to use that as a starting point, but I doubt that would be what they had in mind.

I was talking to a FedEx pilot in Indianapolis he said the company told them the same thing during their last contract negotiations. We arent the airlines, blah blah blah....now they are throwing that back in managments face. good for them. Good luck to all pilots currently in negotiations




sopdan said:
If I'm not mistaken, Horizon is still profitable, so management really doesn't have any justification whatsoever for cutting pay... I hope they stand strong!

sopdan, it doesnt matter. Go ask the Alaska pilots. They had to take paycuts, and they are making money. The arbitrator ruled in favor of management.
 
We might fly shiney jets, but in the eyes of corporate America and the legal system, we're blue collar "Big Labor" and part of a "special interest group".
 
B767Driver said:
IMO, this is why scope at the majors should be in everyone's best interest. Get the connection carrier planes and pilots on the mainline and stop this nonsense.

I agree with you whole heartedly.
 
i can totally see a group of bearded mountain men in their uniforms with ice climbing boots and pick axes picketing in front of a denver terminal.

and to finish off the stereotype, theyd all fail drug tests.

hahahahahahahahahaahaha....................whew!hahahahahahahaha!! LOL thats' funny!!
 
Since bankrupt airlines are allowed to survive the ONLY REAL SOLUTION is to re-regulate the industry. Since de-regulation in 1978 the industry has proven to me that it does not work in a free market economy. I'm not for big government but it just will not work. What more proof do you need? The only way this will become a career again is when government regulates fares so jonny come go jet can't sell seats for 99$ and staff an airline with SJS knuckleheads.
 
Since bankrupt airlines are allowed to survive the ONLY REAL SOLUTION is to re-regulate the industry. Since de-regulation in 1978 the industry has proven to me that it does not work in a free market economy. I'm not for big government but it just will not work. What more proof do you need? The only way this will become a career again is when government regulates fares so jonny come go jet can't sell seats for 99$ and staff an airline with SJS knuckleheads.

Eh...I'm not sure but I believe the airlines and the industry as a whole have been more profitable post regualtion then pre regulation.
 
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