Honolulu HCF Appr

MNFlyboy

MNFlyboy

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Hello to any and all of you controllers in Honolulu. Coming from Air Spur, thanks for all the hard work that you do.

I have a question for you; when I depart HNL for MKK and I'm mid channel, the weather in MKK is being reported 10 and clear, why do I still get the clearance to intercept the final approach course for the VOR-A approach rather than let me continue until I see the airport? For those of you that are familiar, we all know that the last 10 miles into the VOR routinely sees fog/cloud obscuration, but when that doesn't exist, I'd rather not lie about "airport in sight" just because I know I'm GOING to see it on down the road, while I'm 35 miles out to avoid getting the approach clearance. I'm just curious about this procedure. I'm eternally thankful for the hard work, and by no means do I intend for this to be a complaint, just looking for more understanding of the system to be a better participant.

Thanks,

PM
 
My guess is that if they give you that little 10-15 degree jink to the right you're set up for the approach and basically out of their hair. Also, at night a lot of people prefer the approach regardless of the weather and some OpSpecs require it so there is an element of habit/training on the part of HCF.

I'll let them know I'm expecting the visual and would like to proceed direct/north shore/south shore if I don't feel like doing work. There used to be an HCF controller on here but I don't remember him posting a lot.
 
sharkey said:
My guess is that if they give you that little 10-15 degree jink to the right you're set up for the approach and basically out of their hair. Also, at night a lot of people prefer the approach regardless of the weather and some OpSpecs require it so there is an element of habit/training on the part of HCF.

I'll let them know I'm expecting the visual and would like to proceed direct/north shore/south shore if I don't feel like doing work. There used to be an HCF controller on here but I don't remember him posting a lot.
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Sharkey, do you fly with WP?

I know that they gave it to us because we requested it nearly all the time. Or our other option would be to follow visual on the north shore and come in for a 45 to downwind for 5. That usually lessened the turbulence but boxes don't bitch so a straight shot is better in your case.
 
Cessnaflyer said:
Haha ok. How is it under new ownership?
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The same mostly from what I've seen. There have been a few new people installed in management type positions but Larry and his people have been pretty hands off so far.

MNFlyboy, are you in the 1900? How long have you been in Hawaii?
 
Not yet, still in the Caravans, but we'll see in the next few months....... Only downside to the 1900 ops is a 0200 show with a 0330 departure to MUE, and then a return trip about 12 hours later. Lots of time on the big island, not much time at home. From what I've seen they usually do a 3 day stretch with another 2 days between cold or hot standby, but it varies. Leaves alot to be desired compared to the Caravan Ops.
 
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