HondaJet In Production

I'm stripping the plane of Honda and putting Acura all over it. Don't forget to go to AutoZone and get your exhaust tips replaced, and a light up thrust lever.
 
Today I learned JetCareers really hates ricers....I feel bad about my Honda Prelude now hahaha
 
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I'm guilty of owning rice at one time... Eclipse w/rims and exhaust... :(
 
ackeight said:
Uhhhhh. You can get 1000 out of it. Any airplane can have a 300 mile range given the right circumstances. Even my 2400mile hawker.
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Which leaves it a very limited market. Van Nuys to Cabo, just barely. Cabo to Van Nuys, you are probably going to have to stop for fuel. For less money, you could have yourself a Lear31, which isn't a VLJ, make Cabo with no issues, and have enough money left over to buy a lot of gas. It's avionics are good, lots of parts support, and it charters like mad because it's a Lear (customer thinks proven design).

A used Phenom is $2.5m for the cheapest example on Controller.com. The cheapest -31 is $1.2m I can buy a LOT of fuel for that, get there faster, go much farther, and carry more people, and if it has the Raisbeck locker underneath, carry way more. Plus, In a Lear, when I'm coming in behind you in a Cirrus, I won't get a speed restriction because I am overtaking you by 50+kts.

The VLJ thing is cool, for sure. But they are toy jets. They are new, so I am still curious to see how the ones that charter a lot are going to be doing in another 5-10 years maint. wise.
 
If only it were that simple mshunter. According to Conklin de Decker, Lear 31 operates approximately $2,200/hour. Phenom 100 approximately $1,000.

After 24 months you're paying more then twice as much for the Lear. Also consider no single pilot in the Lear, the Phenom is likely still covered under non vendor warranty and is going to be low time/low cycle among many other things. It's not as simple as you make it sound.

That being said, I can't begin to say how happy I am that my boss went with a new CJ3 over the Phenom 100. Glad i'm not flying one.
 
MikeOH58 said:
If only it were that simple mshunter. According to Conklin de Decker, Lear 31 operates approximately $2,200/hour. Phenom 100 approximately $1,000.

After 24 months you're paying more then twice as much for the Lear. Also consider no single pilot in the Lear, the Phenom is likely still covered under non vendor warranty and is going to be low time/low cycle among many other things. It's not as simple as you make it sound.

That being said, I can't begin to say how happy I am that my boss went with a new CJ3 over the Phenom 100. Glad i'm not flying one.
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All valid points I was going to make. Lear 31 and phenom 100 shouldn't be compared. It's the mustang(soon to be the m1), Honda jet vs phenom 100. Ms, I would be glad too if my boss got a cj3 over the 100. I don't think there is an entry level light jet that doesn't have performance restrictions over the "real" jet counterparts that are bigger and more costly. I have always wondered when the phenom 200 is coming out. There had to of been a reason why they went from 1 to 3. That would be a nice 5-6 mill niche airplane with much less restrictions than the 100 I would think.

Back to the Honda jet. It seems like it will perform better than the 100 by their published numbers. I'm wondering what the hot and high or even high and cold(anti ice on) numbers look like. That's where the entry light jets suuuucckkk.
 
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