Hold in lieu of procedure turn

[dr650]

For starters, I should know this...

On an approach there is a hold in lieu of a procedure turn. The appropriate entry is parallel. I cross the fix, start parallel outbound, turn to the left, head back toward the fix.

Question: Do I have to go around the hold now or am I ok to start the approach inbound?

I'm thinking the answer is that I can start the approach I just can't seem to find any hard evidence to support this.

 

[dasleben]

You're legal to simply begin the approach. Look in the AIM; it should be in there (sorry, feeling lazy tonight ).

 

[nosehair]

The "hold in lieu of procedure turn" is...well, it is a procedure turn. It's just shaped like a holding pattern because they didn't have the full ten miles to let you go out and make the usual PT. Your outbound time (distance) is limited by the holding pattern shape, but, just like the old familiar PT, once you are inbound on course, you are ready to descend. Making another turn in the pattern is like making another PT.

 

[MidlifeFlyer]

The "hold in lieu of procedure turn" is...well, it is a procedure turn.

For some reason, people seem to forget that and want to treat it (and a teardrop PT) as somehting compeltey different. It's the same old thing - a way of turning around to get lined up, just with a slightly diffferent set of directions about haw to do it.

 

[dr650]

Thanks, thats what I thought just wanted to make sure.

 

[fholbert]

Speaking as a ATC'er or as a pilot I see little difference between a holding pattern entry and a procedure turn entry. In both you have a huge piece of airspace.

 

[hambone]

The "hold in lieu of procedure turn" is...well, it is a procedure turn. It's just shaped like a holding pattern because they didn't have the full ten miles to let you go out and make the usual PT. Your outbound time (distance) is limited by the holding pattern shape, but, just like the old familiar PT, once you are inbound on course, you are ready to descend. Making another turn in the pattern is like making another PT.

Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I would like to add to the above quote. Just in case you were unaware OP, you can also use the hold to lose any additional altitude you need in order to descend to the entry altitude necessary for the approach. You would have to do a hold in the event you were not at the entry altitude, but as everyone else has said, begin the approach otherwise.

 

[Semi-Driver]

Think of it as a hold entry in lieu of a Procedure Turn

 

[CoffeeIcePapers]

Here is the quote from the AIM that someone else referenced earlier.

A holding pattern in lieu of procedure turn may be specified for course reversal in some procedures. In such cases, the holding pattern is established over an intermediate fix or a final approach fix. The holding pattern distance or time specified in the profile view must be observed. For a hold-in-lieu-of-PT, the holding pattern direction must be flown as depicted and the specified leg length/timing must not be exceeded. Maximum holding airspeed limitations as set forth for all holding patterns apply. The holding pattern maneuver is completed when the aircraft is established on the inbound course after executing the appropriate entry. If cleared for the approach prior to returning to the holding fix, and the aircraft is at the prescribed altitude, additional circuits of the holding pattern are not necessary nor expected by ATC. If pilots elect to make additional circuits to lose excessive altitude or to become better established on course, it is their responsibility to so advise ATC upon receipt of their approach clearance.

 

[jeflies]

This is a good read on the topic.