Hiring Boom?

[Firebird2XC]

"Every employee that you know at your target company with any influence on the pilot screening decision makers should be well aware how badly you want the job."

Qoutes like that scare me. I may be flamed for this, but I hate the mentality in this industry that folks will do anything for a pilot job. And many will do just about anything. Note the QOL plummet in the airlines, and of course flight instructing is usually borderline use and abuse. Understand I mean a difference between working hard and being desperate (ala Shiny Jet Syndrome). In my experience, the instructors I worked with who were the most desperate (versus hard working/diligent) for that airline job / corporate gig, were the worst instructors.
Rant over.

FWIW, we try to avoid "flaming" here. Sometimes we screw up (ask me how I know) but by and large we try to keep it civil.

That said, your opinion isn't as uncommon as you think. You're in good company, actually. Welcome to Jetcareers.

 

[LineCheck]

Correcto.

I've spoken to almost every HR person in the industry over the past year and most* "growth" of sorts is going to be in response to some of the rest rule changes.

There'll be some job growth, but an outright "boom" is language that none of the companies alluded to at all.

There are signs of a recovery in the market and 2011 will be better than 2010, but there is:

• No impending shortage
• Very little possibility of a return to the "200 hours? NOOOOOO problem! Your jet's right here!" days
  
  2011, sans any exploding boxes of toners, will be better than 2010. How much better?
  
  Kit Darby and FlightOps don't know but they need to move product (career fairs, website registrations, books and value-added services) so it behooves them to be a little overly excitable about any upward trends because then being part of their revenue stream makes sense to the consumer.
  
  I have the same contacts they have (maybe more?) and I still remain guarded about any prediction beyond a modest recovery in 2011.
  
  Modest recovery coming? In some circles, yes.
  
  Will there be fat new contracts and throngs of new hires dancing in the streets to Justin Beiber's latest hit? "Baby, baby, baby no baby, baby baby baby noooooooooooooo!"

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  Give me my Justin Bieber cd back!

 

[DCTNstudentpilot1987]

I wonder about how the lack of new students will effect aviation in the future.. What I wonder the most is how many young people will be willing to work as a CFI for several years plus night cargo due to the new ATP for hire rule? With the costs of obtaining just up to commercial even at an FBO, many will want a ROI that does not include several years of working for 15,000/year as a CFI only to work for 30K as a night cargo pilot in order to get a job that pays 20K a year. If the regionals raise pay due to an ATP experience shortage, it wont encourage young people to learn to fly. It will encourage older, more qualified people to get back into flying. The route to a regional will get even longer. I wonder if we are heading for a "lost generation" of aviation. While there wont be a shortage, I think the surplus will make it very difficult for most to get jobs and the costs of learning to fly will be prohibitive to most. This is not 2007. Loans are not easy to come by. Av unis are very expensive such as ERAU. Even for me, I could go to MTSU with in state tuition and when you add housing, food, and flight training to the tuition, it would be around 60-80K.

 

[LoadMasterC141]

It is like Deja Vu: Past Thread Titles(or close to it)
2003 - Will hiring ever come back WTF?
2004 - XXX Hiring a little
2005 - XXXX Airline to hire 1000 pilots!
2006 - Minimums below 1000! How low will the bar go?
2007 - 250 hour wonders are dangerous! XXXX Airline raises first year pay, offers to pay for some training. XXXX airline to offer $5k sign on bonuses, choice of base.
2008 - Age 65?
2009 - The end of the world as we know it!

And so the circle of life starts again. My money is on faster than last time.