Hilarious Lego Airline satire video

Hacker15e said:
Well, let's see...I was a 20-year military officer (a Lt Col with a long variety of leadership and command positions at multiple levels along the journey), flew for 17 of those years as a mission-qualified pilot in three different USAF airplanes, schoolhouse instructor in two, and several combat deployments where I led combat missions in two of those aircraft. Now I'm retired from that gig and flying at a 121 operation.

So, yeah, I'm just a "line pilot".

Maybe once I'm a "training captain" and "management at a freight company", I'll be endowed with your insight about the "big picture", but with my meager leadership, management, and flying experience, I stand by what I previously wrote.
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Sgt. Maj. John Sixta from "Generation Kill" . That was a great show that was way too short!


 
KLB said:
Sgt. Maj. John Sixta from "Generation Kill" . That was a great show that was way too short!

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The AF had its hard-on for mustache-size compliance, too. Source of great strife amongst deployed forces. Guess that is a trans-service, trans-generational experience with US combat forces. I did my part in the mustache wars...

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UAL747400 said:
Unless I'm mistaken, the naysayers are all line pilots only, correct?

Yeah, I've only been a training captain and management at a lowly frieght company, but I'm still right.

Yes @z987k I'm going to be a crotch pheasant/full of myself/egotistical about this... :)

Sorry, but until you're in a position like that, you're just not going to see the big picture with this.
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Not only are you mistaken about the members of JC...but you're wrong. I say that as someone who's been "management." You cannot judge a book by its cover. It is especially common for guys who haven't been around the block to mistake "pretty and compliant" (that is to say, nice clothing, good haircut, excellent first impression, dot every "i" cross every "t", ) with "good at aviating." Again, those who "care" will likely check both boxes - but this is not always the case, and I cannot even say that it is the case any more than a slight majority of the time. Also, where's the data other than anecdotes? I suggest that you are confusing a correlation with causation.
 
ppragman said:
Not only are you mistaken about the members of JC...but you're wrong. I say that as someone who's been "management." You cannot judge a book by its cover. It is especially common for guys who haven't been around the block to mistake "pretty and compliant" (that is to say, nice clothing, good haircut, excellent first impression, dot every "i" cross every "t", ) with "good at aviating." Again, those who "care" will likely check both boxes - but this is not always the case, and I cannot even say that it is the case any more than a slight majority of the time. Also, where's the data other than anecdotes? I suggest that you are confusing a correlation with causation.
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I generally find that there's a direct appearance, at least at my airline, between someone's personal appearance and how seriously they take the job.

This is serious business, even though it's also very fun business.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
I generally find that there's a direct appearance, at least at my airline, between someone's personal appearance and how seriously they take the job.

This is serious business, even though it's also very fun business.
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You're also an airline guy. I mean, part of the job is to look sharp so that the passengers don't feel sketched out by a slob up front. At a freight company, the only reason you're doing it is because UPS decided it was a good idea, or somebody in management got upset about guys wearing t-shirts and jeans. Apples and oranges. One of the best pilots I've ever met wore holy jeans and beer t-shirts to work at his cargo job, and no one cared. Why? Because there's no passengers to watch and you're only interacting with other freight people.
 
Seggy said:
Never mind
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Put it on. ;)

ppragman said:
You're also an airline guy. I mean, part of the job is to look sharp so that the passengers don't feel sketched out by a slob up front. At a freight company, the only reason you're doing it is because UPS decided it was a good idea, or somebody in management got upset about guys wearing t-shirts and jeans. Apples and oranges. One of the best pilots I've ever met wore holy jeans and beer t-shirts to work at his cargo job, and no one cared. Why? Because there's no passengers to watch and you're only interacting with other freight people.
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True.

Make no mistake, I would love to come into work without a tie/without the coat/etc., but that's not what they want me to look like.
 
ppragman said:
You're also an airline guy. I mean, part of the job is to look sharp so that the passengers don't feel sketched out by a slob up front. At a freight company, the only reason you're doing it is because UPS decided it was a good idea, or somebody in management got upset about guys wearing t-shirts and jeans. Apples and oranges. One of the best pilots I've ever met wore holy jeans and beer t-shirts to work at his cargo job, and no one cared. Why? Because there's no passengers to watch and you're only interacting with other freight people.
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Aside from that. Wearing the uniform doesn't fit the job. Those guys are out in the element around the belt loader monitoring the load and on occasions throwing boxes or pushing cargo around. White shirts don't last long in that industry. Down there in Puerto Rico where the temps are high and the aircraft are heat soaked....and everything is moving on Caribbean time, well the crisp clean white uniform shirt and tie just doesn't work.

We only wear our uniform in the sight of our customer at my current gig. As soon as they're off the plane, we're pulling the shirt off and putting on a polo shirt. It keeps us comfortable and the pilot short clean throughout the rest of our duties. The uniform shirt never leaves the airplane.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Put it on. ;)


True.

Make no mistake, I would love to come into work without a tie/without the coat/etc., but that's not what they want me to look like.
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I've seen most guys take they're ties off once the door is closed. They usually also throw on the baseball cap.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Put it on. ;)


True.

Make no mistake, I would love to come into work without a tie/without the coat/etc., but that's not what they want me to look like.
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And it's absolutely silly when you have UPS boxes in the back. Often times, we confuse perception with reality, I believe this is one of those times.

And as for callouts, I still can't find any data out there about why we select specific events to mark other than it "seems right." As someone who always wants to know why, some data on this would be great.

UAL747400 said:
I like the 500 foot call. It's an objective place for either crew member or single pilot guy to go around. Pretty sure ALL of the landing incidents at AMF would have been prevented by a disciplined adherence to this, particularly the Metro. (Referring to the flight idle types..)
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It's not the callout that needs adherence to, it's the check that needs adhering to. Just because you call "500' Stabilized" or whatever at the right time down't mean you're actually stabilized, with final flaps, gear down, etc. It also doesn't mean jack if you don't know why you're calling it.
 
KLB said:
Aside from that. Wearing the uniform doesn't fit the job. Those guys are out in the element around the belt loader monitoring the load and on occasions throwing boxes or pushing cargo around. White shirts don't last long in that industry. Down there in Puerto Rico where the temps are high and the aircraft are heat soaked....and everything is moving on Caribbean time, well the crisp clean white uniform shirt and tie just doesn't work.

We only wear our uniform in the sight of our customer at my current gig. As soon as they're off the plane, we're pulling the shirt off and putting on a polo shirt. It keeps us comfortable and the pilot short clean throughout the rest of our duties. The uniform shirt never leaves the airplane.
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Exactly. And I'm not saying that a company uniform is out of the realm of possibility either. Carharts and a company polo would be fine too, but it better be a color that can mask oil stains.
 
UAL747400 said:
Unless I'm mistaken, the naysayers are all line pilots only, correct?

Yeah, I've only been a training captain and management at a lowly frieght company, but I'm still right.

Yes @z987k I'm going to be a crotch pheasant/full of myself/egotistical about this... :)

Sorry, but until you're in a position like that, you're just not going to see the big picture with this.
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135 check airman and instructor and I think you're full of it.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Then I hope you go into your next interview and tell the panel that you think following the rules is unimportant.
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When the rules are made up by a rogue self-important base manager who is out of touch with reality and relate to banning a company approved uniform, yes, I think it's unimportant.
 
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