Here We Go Again - Look Out Phoenix
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X-Forces
Big Black Guy
If they had all three been just talking in their native language at altitude someone would have complained to the F/A that they maybe were talking about ways to take over the plane!
Sad...
Sad, but true for the time being.
It is not a great situation, but I still have to shake my head when I hear naive remarks to the effect of "Why did such a thing happen", "Why were these men targeted"
Unless you have been hiding under a rock for the last 5 years or so you already know the answer, even if you don't like it.
mpenguin1
Well-Known Member
Not dumb, just lack of experience with a particular group.
There are many people that believe that the United States of America is one big country under the direct control of the President, and do not realize that each City & State has their own separate Government.
Dumb would be to say something like Muslims come from the planet Mars...
tonyw
Well-Known Member
Yeah, so anytime some Muslims pray, they've got to be carrying bombs on them and they're ready to blow themselves up, right?
Having said that, a little consideration on the part of everyone goes a long way. If you know there are a bunch of ignorant Aunt Bessies who think that if you're saying prayers to Allah you're going to blow up the plane, it'd be a good idea to pray silently.
And if you're the crew of the airplane, you could tell Aunt Bessie that they're simply praying and there's nothing to worry about. If she insists on equating praying with terrorism, well, put her on the next flight and hope that no Shintos start praying.
And if you're Aunt Bessie, you might want to get your head out of your butt and say to yourself, hmm, if I were a terrorist looking to blow up the plane, would I want to draw attention to myself?
:whatever:
I don't care if it's a group of Christians chanting "Jesus Jesus Jesus" or a group of Muslims chanting "Allah Allah Allah" - in this current state of heightened security and paranoia, it's stupid. Period. I don't blame Aunt Bessie for being a freaked out. Once again, my opinion is that these guys brought it upon themselves.
Walking on eggshells, that's what everyone feels like they must do in this day and age. God forbid we even consider the fact that indeed Muslim extremists hijacked several planes and murdered 3000. God forbid we remember the Muslim that attempted to blow up his shoe and kill several hundred more. God forbid we remember the huge plot that was uncovered recently in England by Muslim extremists to Hijack several more commercial planes and kill an unknown amount. God forbid Aunt Bessie has the audacity to feel unsettled when 5 Muslim men stand and chant prayers on a commercial airliner. How dare she! :whatever:
Lastly, do we know it was an "old-lady-out-of-touch-with-modern-feelings-and-political-correctness-who-probably-was-a-bible-thumping-right-wing-Christian-who-the-left-absolutely-disdains?" I know several of you have accredited the complaints to this 'stero-type' - as, of course, it's fitting to try and prove your point. God forbid it be a 25 year old black man who's an atheist. That, unfortunately, would be too inconvienent. After all, it's easier to pin it on Aunt Bessie.
Lastly, lets turn your quote around Tony: "If your a Muslim maybe you should get your head out of your butt and say to yourself, "hmmm" maybe we should demonstrate a little sensitivity to my fellow passengers in this most unfortunate period of time and not stand and chant prayers to Allah while on a commercial airliner."
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
While I'll agree with paranoia running rampant and heighten security that it probably wasn't the smartest thing to do. But thats where we part company.
What's next someone saying "oh can you be just a little less black for my sensitive feelings." Or "oh,can you be a little less gay I have children with me,do you have to hold your lovers hand in flight."
"Can you be a little less etc,etc,etc."
When & where would it stop?
Max, my whole point on the 'sensitivity' was meant to be taken as a 'jab' -if you will. I agree with you - this 'over-sensitivity' is what I was attempting to make a joke about.
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
On the first point, there are airlines equipped to handle prayer. Malaysia Airlines, for example, has a few prayer rooms setup in the cabin specifically to prevent the aisles being blocked. The screens cycling throught the inflight information has one screen that shows where mecca is in relation to the airplane.
On the second point, I agree. People shouldn't be blocking the aisles or any part of the airplane. It goes towards common decency and decorum. Some people like to sit on their couch in their underwear. In order to appease their discomfort when they're on an airplane maybe we should allow them to do as they do at home. The people praying should realize that they're in a public setting, and sometimes can't do what they need to do. It's life..get over it. These guys that got arrested should be smart enough to realize that even though they need to pray, it probably isn't the smartest thing to do in America on an airplane. In fact, it's pretty damn stupid. Stupidity should be punished...these guys got what they deserve. I'm done now....:bandit: