Helo crash east of Phoenix 02JAN

[MikeD]

Our system is a hot mess domestically.

Internationally, there’s like two for PVG, one for ICN and maybe two for HND. I really haven’t flown anywhere else in the last couple months. If there are less than 30 for DTW, I’d be shocked.

Years ago, I sent in an FCR for thirty different NOTAMS about perimeter fences at SLC’s cipher-lock codes changing and showed an example of a 45 NOTAM packet with two actual relevant NOTAMS. It’s one thing when you have a single leg and your software will let you flag things as “read” but our flight planning software would reset all the flags as ‘unread’ AAAAAAAAND you’re flying five legs that day, fully responsible for reading all NOTAMS.

Yeah, it would be nice if they could be parsed for applicability to a particular operation. An unlit 200 AGL tower 12 miles from the airport, means as much to you as a change to an altitude to the PINNG STAR into PHX means to me (when in helo op, different for 121 op). Am curious how the new NOTAM system revamping is going.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Oh no, Sean “Road Rules” Duffy’s first move was not to improve the NOTAMS system but rename it because ‘woke’.

Taste the pain, Cherokee. This is on you.

Don’t bitch at us. Silence.

Rename what? Pretty sure the change to Air Missions was the last admin.

Did Duffy change it back to Notice to Airmen?


Good.


And that cuts both ways. The previous admin could have changed it, but they ALSO “first move was not to improve the NOTAMS system but rename it because ‘woke’.”

Pretty sure that AC at SFO finance report came out in 2018/9 and gave the Biden admin plenty of time to change something. Oh wait. They went woke and made it Air Missions. Instead of actually changing something meaningful. No point in crying now that this admin changed it back to Airmen. Both sides being stupid with woke nonsense, instead of actually enacting safety changes.

 

[derg]

Yeah, it would be nice if they could be parsed for applicability to a particular operation. An unlit 200 AGL tower 12 miles from the airport, means as much to you as a change to an altitude to the PINNG STAR into PHX means to me (when in helo op, different for 121 op). Am curious how the new NOTAM system revamping is going.

Yup, if I’m at 200 ATL 12 miles from the airport, an obstruction is the least of my worries because I’m certainly going to make the news in a 350.

 

[BEEF SUPREME]

Oh no, Sean “Road Rules” Duffy’s first move was not to improve the NOTAMS system but rename it because ‘woke’.

Taste the pain, Cherokee. This is on you.

Don’t bitch at us. Silence.

Can we just agree that a political aspect to a safety system has zero place in a safety system?

Either team blue tie or team Nazi.

I waited for years for the resolution to a planned revamp of the NOTAM system. All that happened was the system acronym changed to Notice to Air Missions. Instead of Notice to Airmen. That was team blue tie’s entire contribution. Then team very bad Nazi changed it back. Did either side improve safety? No.

I don’t care about any of the woke or Nazi stuff. I want an easy to understand, simple and not time consuming safety system.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Can we just agree that a political aspect to a safety system has zero place in a safety system?

Either team blue tie or team Nazi.

I waited for years for the resolution to a planned revamp of the NOTAM system. All that happened was the system acronym changed to Notice to Air Missions. Instead of Notice to Airmen. That was team blue tie’s entire contribution. Then team very bad Nazi changed it back. Did either side improve safety? No.

I don’t care about any of the woke or Nazi stuff. I want an easy to understand, simple and not time consuming safety system.

A second liked post. Careful man. This keeps up, we are gonna be friends

 

[BEEF SUPREME]

A second liked post. Careful man. This keeps up, we are gonna be friends

You have nothing to worry about

 

[CFI A&P]

For the record, I would like to see a system to filter NOTAMs based on operations (61/141 flight training, GA, helicopter & HEMS, jets). As Derg said, some information isn’t pertinent for the operation.

However, we’d have to change a regulation before revamping NOTAM distributions. The PIC has to determine if relevant information to the operation per 14 CFR 91.103.

 

[WacoFan]

Yup, if I’m at 200 ATL 12 miles from the airport, an obstruction is the least of my worries because I’m certainly going to make the news in a 350.

I mean...a low-level cross country for the last leg of your retirement flight could be epic. My grandpa got really gleeful recounting low-level cross countries during training in the B-25. Said they were "great fun" and "talk about a 19 year old with a hot rod!" and such.

 

[derg]

I mean...a low-level cross country for the last leg of your retirement flight could be epic. My grandpa got really gleeful recounting low-level cross countries during training in the B-25. Said they were "great fun" and "talk about a 19 year old with a hot rod!" and such.
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“Flight director OFF”

“FPA button… PUSH”

It’s time for some low-level, folks!

Take full advantage of ‘extra time’ in the simulator. V1 cuts are doofus because we don’t do anything.

 

[BobDDuck]

I mean...a low-level cross country for the last leg of your retirement flight could be epic. My grandpa got really gleeful recounting low-level cross countries during training in the B-25. Said they were "great fun" and "talk about a 19 year old with a hot rod!" and such.
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When I first started at PSA, one of the Jets for Jobs captains (furloughed USAir guys) told me a story about when he was still on probation on the 737 and flew a retirement flight with a Pittsburg based captain who took off out of Fort Lauderdale in one of the "new" -400s that had an FMS in it, punched in the AGC VOR (IAF for the ILS to 32) and went direct.