Hawker Down near AKR

Never in aviation has there been a subset allowed to operate the way they do, with so much blatant disregard for rules and regulations, as well as safety like the 135 world has been allowed. If you miss an oil change at a part 91 flight school you are shut down. Kill a bunch of innocent people in a Hawker with two pilots who had no business being in the cockpit, working for a 2 bit POS operator that doctors records? Hmmmm let's blame training contracts....
OK, now take a deeeeep breath and chill. Recall that pretty much every new thing is a reactionary response to some old thing; Some old thing in which something went wrong. We are currently still experiencing Congressional reactions to Colgan-to-Buffalo. In the "old days" 135 was created in reaction to effed-up operators hitting stuff and doing stooopid stuff. If EVERYONE would just follow the two pillars of aviation -Don't hit nothin'; Don't do nothin' stoopid- we could avoid a whole lottta sound and fury... and paperwork. At risk of working in the Department of Redundancy Department, I will say it again... no one can legislate morals, common sense or adherence to good working principles. Those fall squarely into the realm of CULTURE. Our culture is changing, and not always for the better.
 
OK, now take a deeeeep breath and chill. Recall that pretty much every new thing is a reactionary response to some old thing; Some old thing in which something went wrong. We are currently still experiencing Congressional reactions to Colgan-to-Buffalo. In the "old days" 135 was created in reaction to effed-up operators hitting stuff and doing stooopid stuff. If EVERYONE would just follow the two pillars of aviation -Don't hit nothin'; Don't do nothin' stoopid- we could avoid a whole lottta sound and fury... and paperwork. At risk of working in the Department of Redundancy Department, I will say it again... no one can legislate morals, common sense or adherence to good working principles. Those fall squarely into the realm of CULTURE. Our culture is changing, and not always for the better.
Well in this case you can. Jail time and crazy high fines for the certificate holders.
 
Well in this case you can. Jail time and crazy high fines for the certificate holders.
I think I agree - I'm not sure I entirely understand your post. The challenge is getting rich folk in prison when they should be. If you're a rich guy, I think you pretty much have to go full Patrick Bateman to have any chance of ending up behind bars.
 
Or my personal favorite........
ME: "We're AOG due to a mechanical failure. "
DOM: "Well you can't fly with a patient like that, bring it home Part 91 and we'!! figure out how to get the rest of your crew home"
ME: "Errr....what did you just say?"

Just say AIR21. They'll figure it out.
 
That story has so much more fun to it.
@NickH
Especially, this seemingly profound, yet completely non-sequitur management statement: "He performed very well for us while he was here," Pollock told The Tribune. "Unfortunately, circumstances changed."
That's really gotta go in the management statement hall of fame; a Fancy Utterance Conveying Knowledge Stipulating Heavily Important Things. (yeah, acronym it.)
 
Does anyone have any serious understanding of the effectiveness of "certification" organizations such as ARGUS, etc? Are they valuable or just another expensive marketing tool? It seems to me all they really do is actually check up on items that the FAA should be checking up on anyway. The focus of their reviews or audits or what have you by and large seems to be aimed backwards toward historical safety records, etc. This likely tells us something, but perhaps not a great deal as future performance is not necessarily related to past results, especially amid periods of tumult and turnover in an industry. (This can be really significant at small firms. Airlines have entire organization structures to deal with and fill in for lost personnel. Small firms are sometimes completely reliant on Verne or Clem or some other GOBOB. At a couple firms I've had personal knowledge of, when the good mechanic was there the fleet hummed and pilots felt very confident. When he left, not so much, but the same official paperwork still got completed, so externally nothing would appear any different.) Is anyone scratching his noggin at the value of the information provided by such organizations? It strikes me that most, if not all the information they provide is freely available to anyone willing to look. Granted, there is some value in an easy check of someone else's compilation of the data... but only if that data serves as valid information and tells you something reliable. Does it? Perhaps simply being enrolled one of these programs tells us the firm is profitable enough to pay the audit fee, which tells us something, I suppose. But it doesn't tell us where, specifically, the rest of the cash laying around is being spent.
It's only as good as what happens when the auditor isn't around.

Aperture Aviation was/is IS-BAO, stage I and II, I can't remember if they made stage III after I left or not but it wouldn't surprise me, I did my best to put them on that track.

Like any company there were things we were good at and things we were bad at, IS-BAO helped us target our efforts to improve in the areas we found deficient (there were *always* deficiencies no matter how much we tried to track them down) and validate the rest of the program.

Anyone can fabricate crap to pass an audit, but if you have the right culture and the right attitude they can be invaluable.

If you don't have the right culture, don't waste your time and money, put it into great hull insurance instead.

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