Hawker Down near AKR

[ComplexHiAv8r]

Apparently into an apartment complex.

http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/local/akron/2015/11/10/plane-crash-akron/75527892/

 

[Oxman]

on Flightaware...

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/EFT1526
Looks like Execuflight out of FXE http://www.execuflight.com/aircrafts.htm


KAKR 102054Z AUTO 29009KT 5SM BR OVC008 10/08 A2995 RMK AO2 RAB05E16 CIG 006V012

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20151110-1

 

[mshunter]

Weather looks kind crummy.

 

[Inverted]

Is this another bottom feeder outfit from FXE? Dammit I hate to see this

 

[EIR]

That's sad. RIP.

What does bottom feeder have to do with anything? Lives were lost. period.

 

[Inverted]

That's sad. RIP.

What does bottom feeder have to do with anything? Lives were lost. period.

Possible large contributing factor?

 

[ChasenSFO]

No good...what a nasty crash.

 

[Inverted]

7 dead so far. RIP

 

[Oxman]

7 dead so far. RIP

News here in CLE just said owner confirmed 9 on board.

 

[Inverted]

Ugh this is terrible.

 

[EIR]

Possible large contributing factor?

That's possible. I was just trying to see where your comment was heading. I think it may a bit premature to cast judgement on the training of the crew.

 

[Inverted]

That's possible. I was just trying to see where your commend was heading. I think it may a bit premature to cast judgement on the training of the crew.

No judgement on the crew at all, I was aiming more at the operating culture of the company. Gotta wonder how a business jet crashes on an instrument approach though.

 

[Blackhawk]

I agree. I'll be the first to jump on the bottom feeder bandwagon if crew training and qualifications were an issue. Until then even if they are a bottom feeder I will give the crew the benefit of doubt.

 

[fast89pony]

No judgement on the crew at all, I was aiming more at the operating culture of the company. Gotta wonder how a business jet crashes on an instrument approach though.

Umm where to begin..

 

[fholbert]

Sounds like the house was full of ammo. Unmute the sound.

https://twitter.com/JessicaLynnDill/status/664192495807401984/video/1

 

[JumpWake]

https://twitter.com/paigeey_kinns15/status/664186153009070080

Wow.

 

[BobDDuck]

Sounds like the house was full of ammo. Unmute the sound.

https://twitter.com/JessicaLynnDill/status/664192495807401984/video/1

It does kind of sound like rounds cooking off, although it could just be wood burning, filtered through a phone's mic.

 

[Inverted25]

Weather was worse than meter shows. We landed at cleveland right after this and it was a approach to mins

 

[Inverted]

The flightaware track doesn't appear to show an attempt at an approach to a missed. I wonder what the actual weather was at the time of the approach.

 

[CFI A&P]

That's possible. I was just trying to see where your comment was heading. I think it may a bit premature to cast judgement on the training of the crew.

While it is all speculation at this point, it looks like that was leg 5 or 6 for that crew today, with 8 hours of flight time before the crash. In the past I have heard various rumors about operators in that area not complying with rest regs, and operates under this mission statement "make it happen or you don't have a job."