Gusty Winds Full Flaps?

[killbilly]

Another issue I'm seeing is some rental locations requiring renters insurance liability for airplane at 25,000 - 35,000 dollars! Some of those planes aren't even worth that much. Most flight school damage deductibles are only 1,000 or 5,000 which is what you are on the hook for. But some near me require you to purchase renters insurance with aircraft damage/hull liability to cover 25k-35k. With the mandatory property damage coverage (aircraft liability is the optional portion), with both of those it costs nearly $400 in renters insurance for one year. Just to be able to rent.

Another minor issue is despite the FAA rule of 3 TOs/LDGs in cat/class in previous 90 days, some of these flight schools want you to rent there every 60 days or go through a "mini" checkout process before you can rent again. As a full-time airline pilot, if I rent I can't guarantee it will be every 60 days. I think realistically I'd do it once every 90 days (3 months) which is about 4 pleasure flights per year.

I ran into this recently - had a thread about it.

Some places require you to carry hull coverage. I don't really like it, but there is one advantage, and that's in a mishap, their insurance company will likely subrogate against you, and the hull coverage protects you from that - the place I am renting from now is like that.

There is another place in this area that covers you fully - you don't even need renter's insurance - they even cover deductible. Their rental rates are a bit higher.

(shrug)

 

[Champcar]

I ran into this recently - had a thread about it.

Some places require you to carry hull coverage. I don't really like it, but there is one advantage, and that's in a mishap, their insurance company will likely subrogate against you, and the hull coverage protects you from that - the place I am renting from now is like that.

There is another place in this area that covers you fully - you don't even need renter's insurance - they even cover deductible. Their rental rates are a bit higher.

(shrug)

My favorite is the flight school that wants you to check out in each aircraft type they operate. If I'm good in the 172 then I should be able to fly the 152 also.

 

[ChasenSFO]

What 172 setup offers TCAS? Built into what?

Not sure that there is a specific set up, but most of the schools out here lease 172s from various owners and they're all a little different. The last one I flew with TCAS had a little TCAS radar built into the panel, but it was more annoying than anything as it kept going off for traffic that was well below me. I've also flown a plane that had a lightning strike finder built into the panel, but not a wx radar. All sorts of random goodies out there if you want them in your plane.

As for the insurance, the highest deductible I've ever seen is $3,000 out here, currently the place I fly has $2,500 and I don't carry my own insurance at the moment so if I screw up I'd have to pay it. When I was flying out of LOU in Kentucky, you were liable for 100% of everything if I remember right.

 

[JordanD]

Maybe. It doesn't have to be. Just something that says "traffic" and shows it on a GPS/map the location and relative altitude.

The plane I'm flying now has TIS. 9 times out of 10 when I get an audible "traffic!" alert it's a phantom with nothing there, and no altitude information on the yellow dot it shows. Yet I had several airliners come within a mile and a thousand feet and it didn't make a peep.

 

[JustinS]

The plane I'm flying now has TIS. 9 times out of 10 when I get an audible "traffic!" alert it's a phantom with nothing there, and no altitude information on the yellow dot it shows. Yet I had several airliners come within a mile and a thousand feet and it didn't make a peep.

Same here, the phantoms are due to a delay between the ground station receiving and sending information to your TIS. As a result it sometimes thinks there is a plane right next to where you are at the same altitude which is actually just your own airplane.

The TIS also likes to freak out on short final to larger airports where you have other large aircraft holding short for you.

I don't think it will give a traffic alert unless the other plane is within 500' of you. I'll have to go back and do some reading on TIS. It's not a perfect system, but useful enough.

 

[Runincolorado]

Same here, the phantoms are due to a delay between the ground station receiving and sending information to your TIS. As a result it sometimes thinks there is a plane right next to where you are at the same altitude which is actually just your own airplane.

The TIS also likes to freak out on short final to larger airports where you have other large aircraft holding short for you.

I don't think it will give a traffic alert unless the other plane is within 500' of you. I'll have to go back and do some reading on TIS. It's not a perfect system, but useful enough.

I fly a G1000 with TIS and its always a nice moment when you see your shadow especially IMC. Although, to be fair, I have had shadows with ADSB that have kept me busy for a bit.

I have not flown with ADSB in 2 years as current rental place does not have ADSB equipped planes. I probably should by a portable one for the moment.