WestIndian425
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As long as it's not the northeast. That would hurt us in my opinion.
RepubloTaco? ROFL!! :laff::laff::laff:
Who's the reverend?
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Who's the reverend?
scramjet
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Yeah, sometimes you have to do some weird stuff, but I absolutely refuse to pay for a ticket when I can go free!! :laff: Last September, I went to my cousin's AF Basic Training graduation, I went PIT (hometown)-DEN-PHX-SAT then on the way home I went SAT-PHX-LAS-PIT (redeye). Another time I was going to BUF to visit some family, but the loads were sold out so I went PIT-DCA, missed the connection in DCA so hopped on the tram and went to the Washington Mall then a few hours later back to DCA and then to BUF. It's all fun though. I love it, ya never know where you might end up!
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
See, if it's just me and my wife, I don't mind "doing what it takes" to get where I need to go. Toss in a 2 year old, and it's a WHOLE new ball game (Amber will back me up on this one). There's a HUGE difference between non-revving just you and your SO and taking your family. It might have been different "back in the day" before the load factors skyrocketed and the prices plummeted, but it's not like that now. Try telling an airline employee on SA that there's an overcapacity issue and see what kind of response you get.
taseal
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I hope to pick this non-rev thing once I get a job with someone hopefully, but non-rev is pretty much go to the airport, hope they have a seat for you and your SO (or just you) and if they do have a spot, you get on the plane and go?
when you guys buy the tickets, how much do you pay? say if calcapt got a ticket in XJT plane, does he pay full price? discount?
man, I have so many questions about this thing, I think its goign to be harder then getting a type rating lol
when you guys buy the tickets, how much do you pay? say if calcapt got a ticket in XJT plane, does he pay full price? discount?
man, I have so many questions about this thing, I think its goign to be harder then getting a type rating lol
cmsuav8r
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Non-revving seems a lot different today! My parents used to work for TWA and NWA about 15 years ago, and we non-revved with them quite a bit. The only trouble we had that I remembered was that we once flew into Tampa Bay when we were trying to go to Orlando. My grandparents picked us up in Tampa and drove us to Orlando to get our bags.
kellwolf
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More or less. For security reasons, you have to call ahead and "list" yourself (and whoever is travelling with you) on the flight. If you don't make that flight, you get rolled over to the next one, etc, etc. Some airlines charge a fee for pass travel, some don't. Really depends on the airline. NWA charged a fee up until this past January. I think they still charge for 1st class.
Once again, it depends. If you want a for sure seat, you're better off going to Orbitz or some place like that just like a normal traveller. Anything else is probably gonna be "space available," which means you get on after everyone else if there are empty seats. Now, there is a program at NWA, so I assume other airlines have it, called "fly confirmed for less." As an employee with pass benefits, you can get a positive space ticket for a discount off the normal price. That means you get a seat (unless it's oversold, and even full fare people might be left at the gate), but you'll pay a bit more for it. That's only available on NWA, though, not other airlines.
Now, to toss another monkeywrench into the details, there are things called "over the counter agreements." Essentially, these are deals brokered by the individual station managers for that station with other airlines. For example, at SWA we had to ID-90 on Continental (buy a discounted ticket, but it was still space available ie strand-by). BUT, in MCO we could go to the CAL ticket counter, show the ID, and they would print us a paper ticket for the flight if we did it in advance for free. We were still space available, but didn't have to buy an ID-90 for it. With Virgin Atlantic, we only had to pay $90 each way. Even though you're paying, however, it's still stand-by.
taseal
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thanks kellwolf! that halped 
Its just always shocking to hear there are no seats avaliable. I always see empty seats here and there when I commercially fly (obviously as a paying customer since thats my only option right now lol) so its kind of weird to hear 'no seats left'
Its just always shocking to hear there are no seats avaliable. I always see empty seats here and there when I commercially fly (obviously as a paying customer since thats my only option right now lol) so its kind of weird to hear 'no seats left'
ILSstud
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I think non-rev is most certainly a benefit if you look at it from the view point that it allows you to see a TON of places without even paying a dime in most cases. That is a benefit in my eyes. Usually, a week out I just see which flights are open and take a chance and go somewhere. I've made it to Edinburgh and Munich (both up front in businesselite) and visited lots of friends across the country. Just takes some planning, patience, and flexibility.
But yes...as most have said, if I NEED to be somewhere, or people are assuming that I will be there wheN i say I will...I'll stick to buying a ticket (or reduced fare).
But yes...as most have said, if I NEED to be somewhere, or people are assuming that I will be there wheN i say I will...I'll stick to buying a ticket (or reduced fare).
CaptBill
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I search for deals like everybody. I prefer to buy from airline sites over orbitz, travelocity etc. If I have a problem, the airlines seem more willing to work with me if I purchased on their own site. Continentals confirmed employee tickets are almost always more expensive than I find on my own so I have never used them. I have also found that the cheapest fares are found in the 30 to 15 day window before departure. I tried being clever once and booked seats three months out thinking I was doing good. Three weeks before departure the published fares were 30 percent less than I had paid for them several months earlier. After crying on the phone to a sympathetic agent, I was issued credit vouchers for the difference in fares less a small change fee. I always seem to learn my lessons the hard way. :banghead:
mtsu_av8er
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I may not be an airline pilot, but I think that the non-rev benefit is exactly that . . . A BENEFIT.
In my Marine Corps days, we used to be able to fly Space-A on military aircraft in the Air Mobility Command (Once called the Military Airlift Command). It was strictly Space-Available, and a lowly Lance Corporal trying to get to Pensacola from New River, NC might have to go through Norfolk, Willow Grove, Millington, Polk and finally to Pensacola.
But, you know what? It was free. You knew going into it that it was Space-A, and you made the choice.
Personally, I'm looking forward to it!
In my Marine Corps days, we used to be able to fly Space-A on military aircraft in the Air Mobility Command (Once called the Military Airlift Command). It was strictly Space-Available, and a lowly Lance Corporal trying to get to Pensacola from New River, NC might have to go through Norfolk, Willow Grove, Millington, Polk and finally to Pensacola.
But, you know what? It was free. You knew going into it that it was Space-A, and you made the choice.
Personally, I'm looking forward to it!
FLflyer
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Brian Bedford, the lunatic CEO of Republic, is actually the Rev. Brian Bedford. In his internal memos to employees he often forces his narrow-minded views into his messages.Who's the reverend?
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
Technically, then, a company could offer free health care, but set it up where you could hardly use it. Would that still be a benefit?
"Sure, Mr. Williams. We honor your health insurance, and we're glad you choice Baptist South as your hospital. Unfortunately, we don't have any doctors available. But we can try to put you in with the next rotation, assuming no other patients with higher paying insurance don't take all the positions. What's that? No, I'm sure you won't bleed to death in the meantime."
I just don't see how I can call something my company gives me but I can't (not don't want to, but CAN'T) use a benefit.
mtsu_av8er
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If the company offered free medical care, on a strictly space-available basis, and it was free - yeah, I'd call it a benefit!
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
I guess we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. Here's what ole dictionary.com says:
If they're giving something, but I'm not receiving it, I don't count it. If I spend my day trying to get on a flight to MCO with my family and never make it, I don't consider that a benefit. I consider that a waste of a day. The only thing worse would be trying to go through another city and getting stuck there. You haven't non-revved until you've slept in an airport.
If they're giving something, but I'm not receiving it, I don't count it. If I spend my day trying to get on a flight to MCO with my family and never make it, I don't consider that a benefit. I consider that a waste of a day. The only thing worse would be trying to go through another city and getting stuck there. You haven't non-revved until you've slept in an airport.
mtsu_av8er
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You haven't non-revved until you've slept in an airport.
What if you're non-reving through military bases, flying Space-A, without the luxury of anyplace to even buy something to eat while you're sleeping in the terminal.
Does that count?
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
What if you're non-reving through military bases, flying Space-A, without the luxury of anyplace to even buy something to eat while you're sleeping in the terminal.
Does that count?
Depends. Did the flight to Qatar cancel, thus moving all the devil dogs that were supposed to be on that flight to yours, leaving you stranded? If so, then I guess it does.
mtsu_av8er
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Depends. Did the flight to Qatar cancel, thus moving all the devil dogs that were supposed to be on that flight to yours, leaving you stranded? If so, then I guess it does.
Oh, all of those things happened, and then some. Mechanicals, Generals on "official business" showing up, "weather", re-routes . . . you name it!
If you're flexible on travel days & times, watch loads carefully, and don't try to go to MCO in June, you CAN go many places & see some really cool stuff using your nonrev passes.
If you have to be somewhere at a certain time, if you're travelling with a large party or small kids, you're better off buying tickets.
Your butt only needs one seat. So, if the flight is fairly full, that doesn't necessarily mean you're not getting on. Just for fun I've watched loads from CVG to LGW, and spending a "weekend" in London would be difficult non-rev-wise, however, if you're willing to go on a Tuesday and come back on Friday, that's pretty doable. Flexibiliby, watching loads and keeping an eye on the weather is important.
We non-reved once with our oldest when he was 10 months. We were uber-careful about watching loads and everything, and we got on every flight we wanted, but it was pretty stressful. We've decided not to non rev with the kids until they're old enough to understand "space available", sit by themselves (if we can't get seats together) and be counted on to behave. It's going to be a few years However, I am looking foward to when that time comes, that we can show them the world! I've never traveled much (okay pretty much at all) outside the U.S. and I'm really excited about sharing that with them!
If you have to be somewhere at a certain time, if you're travelling with a large party or small kids, you're better off buying tickets.
Your butt only needs one seat. So, if the flight is fairly full, that doesn't necessarily mean you're not getting on. Just for fun I've watched loads from CVG to LGW, and spending a "weekend" in London would be difficult non-rev-wise, however, if you're willing to go on a Tuesday and come back on Friday, that's pretty doable. Flexibiliby, watching loads and keeping an eye on the weather is important.
We non-reved once with our oldest when he was 10 months. We were uber-careful about watching loads and everything, and we got on every flight we wanted, but it was pretty stressful. We've decided not to non rev with the kids until they're old enough to understand "space available", sit by themselves (if we can't get seats together) and be counted on to behave. It's going to be a few years
However, I am looking foward to when that time comes, that we can show them the world! I've never traveled much (okay pretty much at all) outside the U.S. and I'm really excited about sharing that with them!
GatorFC
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Old Pete
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Originally Posted by calcapt
...I tried being clever once and booked seats three months out thinking I was doing good. Three weeks before departure the published fares were 30 percent less than I had paid for them several months earlier. After crying on the phone to a sympathetic agent, I was issued credit vouchers for the difference in fares less a small change fee. I always seem to learn my lessons the hard way. :banghead:
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