Graduated - help me find a job!

Understand were you are coming from. It was just a thought. I also have known dispatchers to work FedEx and/or UPS part time, just so they could be an internal candidate.

Since you have already worked for them, you might be able to salvage that longevity.

Also, the last time UPS posted a dispatch position they over 300 applicants. When I interviewed at F9, they only received 30 for 2 positions. Dispatchers know that once on with Big Brown or Big Blue, you are set for life.

F9DXER
 
F9DXER said:
Understand were you are coming from. It was just a thought. I also have known dispatchers to work FedEx and/or UPS part time, just so they could be an internal candidate.

Since you have already worked for them, you might be able to salvage that longevity.

Also, the last time UPS posted a dispatch position they over 300 applicants. When I interviewed at F9, they only received 30 for 2 positions. Dispatchers know that once on with Big Brown or Big Blue, you are set for life.

F9DXER
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F9, with whom do you work for? I would apply for fedex or ups, but im not crazy about living in memphis or louisville. I just applied for american eagle in miami.
 
Don't know how you feel about Houston but companies like Baseops and Universal are usually on the look out for trip coordinators/planners. They specialize in International Flight Services for Part 91 and 135 operators mostly, doing everything from flight planning to ground handling to Wx... You may start as a trip planner, basically arranging all the details of the flight, but can then progress into true flight planning/dispatch

Not sure if that's your cup of tea though. I got my DX license while working as a crew sked (ugh!) and then had a short stint at a Part 135 operator before getting my first 121 Dx gig.

Good luck!
 
BigFellor said:
They just hired a few new crew schedulers over here (PSA). I hear one is doing just what you suggest F9, he wants to dispatch, but he isnt old enough yet. Might keep an eye open for a scheduler position also, to get your foot in the door. They are (quite unfortunately) in the same room as dispatch and maintenance control, and you'd be able to learn quite a bit if you wanted to.
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Why is it unfortunate thst Crew Schedulers are in the same room?\


Just curious. I think it's more efficient IMHO
 
stickks said:
Ok, now that Im graduated, can someone help me find a job?
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Check all airlines periodically, one suggestion though: don't waste your time with those corporate flight service folks. Just go straight to the airlines, they will start you at slightly lower rate, but the future is better, much better.
 
AnBok said:
Don't know how you feel about Houston but companies like Baseops and Universal are usually on the look out for trip coordinators/planners. They specialize in International Flight Services for Part 91 and 135 operators mostly, doing everything from flight planning to ground handling to Wx... You may start as a trip planner, basically arranging all the details of the flight, but can then progress into true flight planning/dispatch

Not sure if that's your cup of tea though. I got my DX license while working as a crew sked (ugh!) and then had a short stint at a Part 135 operator before getting my first 121 Dx gig.

Good luck!
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Like I said before - those things are waste of time. You trained for ADX-121 and that is what you are. All these corporate flight handling deals are not professionals. There is no way you can know everything about everywhere and that is what they shamelessly claim they do and know. Yet they hire you (certified specialist) and a high school dropout (who probably has no idea why airplanes fly and do not flap their wings like the birds do); and they start you both at the same rate. Does it make sense? As for accuracy and professionalism, let's not even open that door. I have seen those "professionals" make mistakes that in a 121 environment will get you at least fired if not something worse. I'd say 121-operations are the ones to go for. They are the ones that actually require ADX cert to be hired, and they know what they are doing. The 91/135 deals, I 'd stay away from.
 
LETUN2009 said:
Check all airlines periodically, one suggestion though: don't waste your time with those corporate flight service folks. Just go straight to the airlines, they will start you at slightly lower rate, but the future is better, much better.
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LETUN2009 said:
Like I said before - those things are waste of time. You trained for ADX-121 and that is what you are. All these corporate flight handling deals are not professionals. There is no way you can know everything about everywhere and that is what they shamelessly claim they do and know. Yet they hire you (certified specialist) and a high school dropout (who probably has no idea why airplanes fly and do not flap their wings like the birds do); and they start you both at the same rate. Does it make sense? As for accuracy and professionalism, let's not even open that door. I have seen those "professionals" make mistakes that in a 121 environment will get you at least fired if not something worse. I'd say 121-operations are the ones to go for. They are the ones that actually require ADX cert to be hired, and they know what they are doing. The 91/135 deals, I 'd stay away from.
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Whooo, I don't care who you are. That's funny right there.

Every happy pilot I know works for Southwest or a Corporate outfit.

The best way to get into corporate flying is to pound the pavement, get to know the folks flying the jets. Pilots are pilots and they love to talk flying. Make a friend in the corporate world and your life becomes a lot easier.

Flying to Miami, Exuma, Nassau, Eluthra one day then to Denver the next is a lot better than flying a CRJ between CVG and LGA 5 times a day for nine years.
 
LETUN2009 said:
Like I said before - those things are waste of time. You trained for ADX-121 and that is what you are. All these corporate flight handling deals are not professionals. There is no way you can know everything about everywhere and that is what they shamelessly claim they do and know. Yet they hire you (certified specialist) and a high school dropout (who probably has no idea why airplanes fly and do not flap their wings like the birds do); and they start you both at the same rate. Does it make sense? As for accuracy and professionalism, let's not even open that door. I have seen those "professionals" make mistakes that in a 121 environment will get you at least fired if not something worse. I'd say 121-operations are the ones to go for. They are the ones that actually require ADX cert to be hired, and they know what they are doing. The 91/135 deals, I 'd stay away from.
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Well, I guess that's your opinion and that's cool. I wouldn't just throw in all the 91/135 operators together in one bucket. When I was a Mgr of Dispatch at a Pt 121 Flag Carrier we did a lot of work with the Wx folks at Jepp (based in San Jose) and they some of the most professional people I had the pleasure of working with. What about NetJets and EJM???? Are you classifying those guys and gals as pseudo-dispatchers as well just because they work for a Pt 135 outfit?

I want to make clear that I am not advocating working for an actual Pt 1 operator. Stay away from those like the plague!!!

To each its own... Some may like being paid $8/hr to dispatch Dash 8s back and forth tiny airports. Others may like flight planning and flight following for business jets for flights all around the world often not knowing what the tomorrow holds in store. Today it may be a GLEX flying from FRG to Papua New Guinea, tomorrow it could be the Google B762 on it's way down to NZ...

And yes, these folks screw up from time to time. I didn't realize that Part 121 Dispatchers never make mistakes. That's news to me.

Like I said to each its own. The thread was started by someone looking for a Dx job. Why not look around and see what's out there and let him make his own decision on what environment he likes to work in?
 
What, 121 dispatchers never make a mistake. :rotfl:
Boy let me catch my breath on that one.
Stand by it might take me a few minutes to get my ass off of the floor.

All dispatchers have made mistakes, me included. It is going to happen. In my opinion it occurs when you either get complacent or are having your ass handed to you. One just needs to be able to know and heed the signs. If it means taking a few more minutes to do a flight plan then so be it. If it means you have to off load some of your work to another dispatcher so you can concentrate on the issue at hand, do it.

I much rather explain to my boss, why it took so long to do this flight plan or why I had to drop some work versus why I busted a company policy or worse an FAR.
 
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