Got an offer with a 135 carrier for “dispatch” but noticed that no one stays in that position for longer than 3 months

I'd say if it's your first gig it's a great way to get experience, get the lingo and workflow down. Talking with MOC and fuelers and customers are really important skills that translate well to the 121 world.

People might be leaving within 3 months might be a good sign. Get the experience and get out
 
Bobber said:
I'd say if it's your first gig it's a great way to get experience, get the lingo and workflow down. Talking with MOC and fuelers and customers are really important skills that translate well to the 121 world.

People might be leaving within 3 months might be a good sign. Get the experience and get out
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I reached out to a few on LinkedIn, mainly it’s a consensus about how the manager is. With some saying it’s the worst they’ve ever experienced at an airline. The offer is attractive though. More money than at a regional for sure.
 
flywithmyeyesclosed said:
I reached out to a few on LinkedIn, mainly it’s a consensus about how the manager is. With some saying it’s the worst they’ve ever experienced at an airline. The offer is attractive though. More money than at a regional for sure.
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If you're looking to make dispatch a career and make it to a major airline, I'd recommend going for a 121 regional (or 121 LCC or larger supplemental, if the opportunity arises). The major airlines are hiring a huge amount of regional dispatchers right now, meaning the regionals need to backfill. If you can get an offer with a regional, I'd take it over a 135. If 135 is the only offer you have or can reasonably get for now, then it's definitely a start. I just wouldn't pass up a 121 offer, even if the 135 salary is better. 121 dispatch experience gets you that much closer to a major. If you're working at a 135, but can get a 121 dispatch job, the opportunity cost of working at the 135 far outweighs any marginal difference in compensation. The sooner you put your few years in at a 121 regional/supplemental/LCC (and ideally build on it with ops manager/lead/trainer experience), the closer you are to a major.
 
form810 said:
If it's 135, make sure it's actually a "dispatch" position and not just "charter" or "flight following" or "whatever we call it 'round here" position.
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This is the job description listed on their site. But in talking to former employees they say there’s very little “dispatching” with one guy telling me he had three years of 121 experience and this felt more like a sales position. That’s what really has me on the fence but I don’t know if I’m being too particular or not.
 
flywithmyeyesclosed said:
This is the job description listed on their site. But in talking to former employees they say there’s very little “dispatching” with one guy telling me he had three years of 121 experience and this felt more like a sales position. That’s what really has me on the fence but I don’t know if I’m being too particular or not.
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The way I see it is if you're on the fence then you've got your answer.
 
flywithmyeyesclosed said:
I reached out to a few on LinkedIn, mainly it’s a consensus about how the manager is. With some saying it’s the worst they’ve ever experienced at an airline. The offer is attractive though. More money than at a regional for sure.
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regionals are like an internship. People need to get over this logic of, regional life is terrible, when majors are raiding regionals… people are staying at regions 2-3 months then going to a major, if you’re at a regional at this point over a year or 15 months, you need to pick up your game…
 
bbmikej said:
Wanna get really deep?

Flip a coin. Not because you will do what it says, but because in the brief moment it's in the air you know which side you are hoping for.
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This is too deep to start the day with. Need to have my coffee first. A very solid point though, still thinking about it.

RegionalDXer said:
regionals are like an internship. People need to get over this logic of, regional life is terrible, when majors are raiding regionals… people are staying at regions 2-3 months then going to a major, if you’re at a regional at this point over a year or 15 months, you need to pick up your game…
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It’s worth noting that the 2-12 month timeframe is possible through the lens of the current market. I still remember prior to COVID and within the last 4 years, certain higher ups wouldn’t even consider you without a solid 2 years on the resume. Straight to TBNT. I bet there’s folks here now who are at their dream airline with TBNT PTSD.
 
RegionalDXer said:
regionals are like an internship. People need to get over this logic of, regional life is terrible, when majors are raiding regionals… people are staying at regions 2-3 months then going to a major, if you’re at a regional at this point over a year or 15 months, you need to pick up your game…
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oops
 
I’m here in NYC and I think I’d rather get into Jetblue somewhere in the SOC and work my way in. I am a dispatch instructor at a ground school here but circumstances right now won’t let me move to another city for a regional.
 
flywithmyeyesclosed said:
I’m here in NYC and I think I’d rather get into Jetblue somewhere in the SOC and work my way in. I am a dispatch instructor at a ground school here but circumstances right now won’t let me move to another city for a regional.
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Have you applied to JetBlue’s load planning openings? It’s a great way to get into the SOC and network into dispatch as we work with load planners every single day. They also fall into the same department as dispatch so same management.
 
gopherdx said:
Have you applied to JetBlue’s load planning openings? It’s a great way to get into the SOC and network into dispatch as we work with load planners every single day. They also fall into the same department as dispatch so same management.
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Both positions opened up at the same time and I went for dispatch instead. Ironically enough I teach a lot of Jetblue employees working on their certificates and they told me about the position. Earlier in the year I was invited to interview for crew scheduling but withdrew because my buddy that works there said they put you in probation for a year and you can’t apply for another position. But next time load planning opens up I’ll go for it.
 
flywithmyeyesclosed said:
Both positions opened up at the same time and I went for dispatch instead. Ironically enough I teach a lot of Jetblue employees working on their certificates and they told me about the position. Earlier in the year I was invited to interview for crew scheduling but withdrew because my buddy that works there said they put you in probation for a year and you can’t apply for another position. But next time load planning opens up I’ll go for it.
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That rule is not exclusive to crew scheduling. There’s a one year probationary period in any role at JetBlue before you are able to apply to another role. It’s very unlikely you’d get hired into dispatch directly as an external with 0 dispatch experience but much more likely getting hired in load planning. The internal route is a great way to get into dispatch without having to start at a regional.
 
gopherdx said:
That rule is not exclusive to crew scheduling. There’s a one year probationary period in any role at JetBlue before you are able to apply to another role. It’s very unlikely you’d get hired into dispatch directly as an external with 0 dispatch experience but much more likely getting hired in load planning. The internal route is a great way to get into dispatch without having to start at a regional.
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That's good to know. Hopefully later this year something else opens up in load planning. My friend says they're understaffed right now.
 
RegionalDXer said:
regionals are like an internship. People need to get over this logic of, regional life is terrible, when majors are raiding regionals… people are staying at regions 2-3 months then going to a major, if you’re at a regional at this point over a year or 15 months, you need to pick up your game…
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Tell that to the 30 people at my shop that got auto rejected at the big 3 this season
 
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