Good CRM Video - A340 Engine Out
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BEEF SUPREME
Well-Known Member
I wish they had shown the reaction of the PAX when he said they had to return.
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
Bless her for reading the FMA after all those relays went a clackin'.
Screaming_Emu
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Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
I'm not sure American pilots would have handled it that well.
Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
Yeah, I mean, I'm no expert, but I'd vote that any situation in which anyone is calmly selecting their preferred brand of chocolate treat be prohibited from using the word "emergency" to describe itself.
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
NickH
Uber Driver
They are Swiss, they eat chocolate before they do anything.
Part of the CRM. Captain wants to make sure everyone's blood sugar is up to keep them performing. Making sure your crew eats is part of a Captain's responsibility, at least in the EMS world!
bLizZuE
Calling for engine starts en français
I was an SAT instructor in the states for a few years and it's pretty awesome to see the principles we taught to primary cadets being applied on the line. You hear the FO repeat a few times, "Power, Performance" - that's a PPAA decision making tool. Power, performance, analysis, action. They teach it to private pilot students from day one when dealing with any abnormality and it guides them through the decision along process.
Another dissimilarity to note is that the procedure is to allow the FO to fly the aircraft during abnormalities and emergencies. This allows the captain the ability to analyze the situation and have better awareness of the problem rather than being heads down and focused on flying or even worse- attempting to do both.
I'll have to get on touch with my former students flying the line there and see what they have to say about this scenario.
Thanks for sharing!
Another dissimilarity to note is that the procedure is to allow the FO to fly the aircraft during abnormalities and emergencies. This allows the captain the ability to analyze the situation and have better awareness of the problem rather than being heads down and focused on flying or even worse- attempting to do both.
I'll have to get on touch with my former students flying the line there and see what they have to say about this scenario.
Thanks for sharing!
Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
I did think the CRM was good. No one got in a hurry, and the F/O had a good catch on the C/A running the wrong checklist. I mean, uhm, I rather imagine everything would have been just fine in any case, but they worked through it in what I thought was a good, careful, collected way.
Now, that said, if there were fourteen alarms going off, crap flying all over the place, and a windshield full of terra firma, I'm not sure the same, eh, principles would be terribly useful...but for that sort of problem, two thumbs up.
Zis must be vhy ze trainz all run on tyme!
Now, that said, if there were fourteen alarms going off, crap flying all over the place, and a windshield full of terra firma, I'm not sure the same, eh, principles would be terribly useful...but for that sort of problem, two thumbs up.
Zis must be vhy ze trainz all run on tyme!
Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
Making sure your crew eats is part of a Captain's responsibility, at least in the EMS world!
Uh, yeah, if my brief visits to community programs were any indicator, at those programs, it's the Captain's PRIMARY responsibility. Duty times be damned!
