Gold Seal Instructor

GOLD SEAL FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR CERTIFICATES. The specific requirements for the gold seal flight instructor certificate are contained in FAA Orders 8700.1, General Aviation Operations Inspector’s Handbook, and 8710.3C, Pilot Examiner’s Handbook. Flight instructor certificates bearing distinctive gold seals are issued to flight instructors who have maintained a high level of flight training activity and who meet special criteria. Once issued, a gold seal flight instructor certificate will be reissued each time the instructor's certificate is renewed. Applicants for gold seal flight instructor certificates must meet the following requirements:
a. The flight instructor must hold a commercial pilot certificate with an instrument rating (glider flight instructors need not hold an instrument rating) or an ATP certificate;
b. The flight instructor must hold a ground instructor certificate with an advanced or instrument ground instructor rating; and
c. The flight instructor must have accomplished the following within the previous 24 months:
(1) Trained and recommended at least 10 applicants for a practical test, at least 8 of whom passed their tests on the first attempt;
(2) Conducted at least 20 practical tests as a designated pilot examiner, or graduation tests as chief instructor of a 14 CFR part 141 approved pilot school course; or
(3) A combination of the above requirements. (Two practical tests conducted equal the credit given for one applicant trained and recommended for a practical test.)
 
IMHO gold seal is targeting pilot mills. It is more rare to have 5 passes per year in the 91 environment. I cant tell you how many students I have gotten all the way through training only to have disappear before the checkride.

Gold seal does not necessarily impress me as it should be the quality, not quantity, of applicants that are addressed
 
I have an interpretation questions about (1). Do you need to maintain the 8/10 ratio(80%) pass rate? The way I read it, if you have more than 10, but at least 8 of them passed, that still would count.
 
Just wondering... I have a 29/30 pass rate (damn II who just messed up). Anyways... I am going to take the IGI here at some point. However I was wondering since I have until 07/2009 until my CFI expeires if I should bother now with this or wait? In addition what do they need as far as proof about the students. I have copies of all my sign offs that I could provide but I was not aware if this will be good enough. Should I go ahead and just get my gold seal now or wait until 07/09 when I need to be renewed?
 
It renews your CFI for an additional 2 years AFTER your current one expires if that makes sense.
 
I was wondering what do I have to do to take the IGI/AGI or whatever i need for the ground instructor part? Someone told me I'd have to retake the CFI/CFII writtens, which sucks, but is that true?
 
You need to take the AGI or IGI knowledge test, and take the results and an 8710 to your FSDO. Take your flight instructor ticket as proof of having passed the FOI knowledge test.

Yes, the ground instructor knowledge tests are almost identical to the flight instructor knowledge tests.
 
. The flight instructor must hold a commercial pilot certificate with an instrument rating (glider flight instructors need not hold an instrument rating) or an ATP certificate;
b. The flight instructor must hold a ground instructor certificate with an advanced or instrument ground instructor rating; and
c. The flight instructor must have accomplished the following within the previous 24 months:
(1) Trained and recommended at least 10 applicants for a practical test, at least 8 of whom passed their tests on the first attempt;
(2) Conducted at least 20 practical tests as a designated pilot examiner, or graduation tests as chief instructor of a 14 CFR part 141 approved pilot school course; or
(3) A combination of the above requirements. (Two practical tests conducted equal the credit given for one applicant trained and recommended for a practical test.)


I meet requirement #1...but #2 perplexes me, how do you meet that one??
 
Well, if you're not a DPE, then b 2 does not apply.

Basically its stating that DPEs can be gold seal if they have conducted at least 20 tests in the previous 24 months.

If the DPE is also an active flight instructor, then you can combine 1 and 2 at the rate of 2 practical test equivalent to 1 recommendation that passes.

In other words as an example (if i was a DPE) as a CFI/DPE I recommend 8 applicants who pass and examine 4 on checkrides, that satisfys a total of 10 for the gold seal.
 
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