GoJet pilot on the radio

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I teach out of a class C airport so things can get overwhelming for a new student pilot. One of my students has been struggling with radio calls so I instructed him to use student pilot on the initial call. It’s been effective as the controllers have been slowing down their clearances.

One evening we get our clearance and call up ground using student pilot. We get our taxi instructions when here comes Lindbergh calling up ground for taxi and includes student pilot with a laughing voice. I’m sure it was funny to him but you could tell my student took it as the GoJet pilot making fun of him.

I really wanted to make a comment about GoJet but decided to keep it professional in front of my student. While it may have been funny to him, it clearly affected my student self esteem.

Let’s not be dbags to new student pilots.
 
CFI A&P said:
Sadly that won't be the last time your student hears a regional pilot acting like a . Wait until you start flying cross countries and monitoring guard....
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So here is my observation after commuting/flying/jumpseating for the past few years... I’ve seen a regional pilot (a CA) goof around on guard ONCE when I was flying with them. I’ve seen mainline pilots goof around on guard more than a handful of times. That’s just been my observation.
 
You should have told him that "Lindbergh" and "student pilot" were redundant and either one was enough to put the controller on high alert.

P.S. If you know the date/time/flight number the internet should be able to figure out the culprit and shame them thoroughly.
 
chrisreedrules said:
So here is my observation after commuting/flying/jumpseating for the past few years... I’ve seen a regional pilot (a CA) goof around on guard ONCE when I was flying with them. I’ve seen mainline pilots goof around on guard more than a handful of times. That’s just been my observation.
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You maybe right. I'm not a jump seater, just my observation.
 
Sometimes people need thicker skin.

I can hear the snowflakes melting from my hotel room.

I totally get how it could be taken the wrong way but there are a lot of dicks in aviation, it goes along with the Type A attracted to operating the equipment.
 
wheelsup said:
Sometimes people need thicker skin.

I can hear the snowflakes melting from my hotel room.

I totally get how it could be taken the wrong way but there are a lot of dicks in aviation, it goes along with the Type A attracted to operating the equipment.
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I think a lot of times that Type-A personality is mistaken for what it really is. Narcissistic, sociopathy.

Some quick things to remember. The loudest person in the room is ALWAYS the weakest. And greatly over compensating for their many fears and insecurities. They want to feel power over another as a negative coping skill to deal with their own inadequacies. That's not type-A behavior, that's narcissism and sociopathy. the biggest micro-manaaging type people themselves have experiencing some serous interpersonal issues, but self-medicating by trying to manage others, instead of managing themselves. Because in their minds, it's always better to avoid and micro-manage someone else, instead of actually dealing with their own goddamn bullsh*t.
 
NovemberEcho said:
I'll disagree with that. At least in the ATC world.
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I don't work in ATC, but in my many life experiences it still rings true. I've never had to worry about anyone who's talking their mouth off. About what they're going to do. Or how much smarter/better/richer they are than everyone else. It's always been the quiet ones, the less flashy ones that came out of left field and always surprised you. In either a good or a bad way.

How is it different in the ATC world?
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
I don't work in ATC, but in my many life experiences it still rings true. I've never had to worry about anyone who's talking their mouth off. About what they're going to do. Or how much smarter/better/richer they are than everyone else. It's always been the quiet ones, the less flashy ones that came out of left field and always surprised you. In either a good or a bad way.

How is it different in the ATC world?
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Not so much with trainees, but I've known plenty of solid controllers who are also cocky loud mouths. Hell I've been that guy.
 
There is being professional and being a leader in the cockpit, your an instructor and your students sees you as such. Professionalism is also calling people out for not being professional. Maybe I’m that guy, but all the captains I train are confident and ready and control the situation, why because they are professional. Tell your student that you should of been a better example for him in the future.
 
NovemberEcho said:
Not so much with trainees, but I've known plenty of solid controllers who are also cocky loud mouths. Hell I've been that guy.
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Machismo, rivalry maybe?

Dunno I've never really been a competitive, insecure douchey Alpha male type. I've always thought that if one is confident in themselves and their own skills then they don't have to broadcast it to others. Again it's been my experience that when someone is feeling lesser, they consciously or unconsciously overcompensate by putting others down. Or by super inflating their id with braggadocio or by micro-managing.
 
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