Going from 121 supplemental to LCC/Major

[GoingTurbo]

I started at a regional supp cargo carrier and used that to go to a LCC. I didn't have ETOPS (and still don't) but that LCC lead me to a major. In my new hire class there was one from a big supp carrier and plenty of others on the seniority list. In my opinion, your interview skills and networking are just as, if not more, important as your experience. Cargo ETOPS will help your resume stick out, but you still need to nail the interview to get in

 

[Wingy]

This is all very eye opening for me, considering I dispatch for them.

So...

Of course, without a C070 it would all be supplemental. We do operate flights now and again as supplemental when we are operating one off charters, but that's no different than the major pax carriers when they operate charters to destinations not listed in C070.

You agree? You do have supplemental?

Kinda confused. To say you don't do supplemental than say you do sometimes which means that you can... meaning that you are supplemental? Which goes back to my point about what exactly is 121 supplemental.

I never said it was different than the pax carriers because that's my point. That's where alot of hiring managers at LLC/majors get confused and some times discredit dispatchers from those types of places. Even if they are called dispatchers, some major hiring managers only see them as flight followers, when places like atlas do it all.

And that's where networking comes in to play imo. To have a guy who knows a guy who can say hey this atlas guy is a qualified candidate vs some automated machine saying nope, not a regional person so not qualified.

Any way I just went off the atlas website, searched "atlas ETOPS," know they do military and sports teams which are off line charters (which are supplemental) on top of the domestic and flag flights that atlas does. The things Google gets us x-D

 

[Wingy]

So how does one network? I don't hang out with my co workers outside work but some of them do.

Honestly beer

 

[who'swho]

So...


You agree? You do have supplemental?

Kinda confused. To say you don't do supplemental than say you do sometimes which means that you can... meaning that you are supplemental? Which goes back to my point about what exactly is 121 supplemental.

I never said it was different than the pax carriers because that's my point. That's where alot of hiring managers at LLC/majors get confused and some times discredit dispatchers from those types of places. Even if they are called dispatchers, some major hiring managers only see them as flight followers, when places like atlas do it all.

And that's where networking comes in to play imo. To have a guy who knows a guy who can say hey this atlas guy is a qualified candidate vs some automated machine saying nope, not a regional person so not qualified.

Any way I just went off the atlas website, searched "atlas ETOPS," know they do military and sports teams which are off line charters (which are supplemental) on top of the domestic and flag flights that atlas does. The things Google gets us x-D

Everyone can do supplemental. Not everyone is flag/domestic. You said Atlas is supplemental. That is incorrect. Our NFL charters are to major U.S. airports, they are in the C070 so they operate as domestic. Also, 95% of the military charters are also flag/domestic since we have a rather diverse C070. Keep Googling.

 

[Wingy]

Everyone can do supplemental. Not everyone is flag/domestic. You said Atlas is supplemental. That is incorrect. Our NFL charters are to major U.S. airports, they are in the C070 so they operate as domestic. Also, 95% of the military charters are also flag/domestic since we have a rather diverse C070. Keep Googling.

WILCO x-D

 

[Shock-Diamonds]

So how does one network? I don't hang out with my co workers outside work but some of them do.

You network by making friends. It's everything in this game. You don't need to necessarily need to go out with your coworkers, but you should at least try and be outgoing and friendly or someone others could consider a 'work buddy'. Besides getting a recommendation, a big part of getting hired at a major (if you can get an interview) is by being someone that they would want to share an office with for the next 20 years.

 

[kacampbell]

If you're able to go to the ADF Conference (hopefully they have it this year), its also a good network of dispatchers if you're willing to put yourself out there. We all talk shop so it's easy to find some common ground.

 

[jose1337]

If you're able to go to the ADF Conference (hopefully they have it this year), its also a good network of dispatchers if you're willing to put yourself out there. We all talk shop so it's easy to find some common ground.

It is also typically hosted by an airline in the host city, so it is also typically a good opportunity to see a major dispatch office. WN and AA both had tours when it was held in Dallas, and hopefully that will continue post-COVID...