Getting "actual" IMC

PeanuckleCRJ said:
I instructed out of TLH.... fog was a fairly common occurence during certain times of the year. The good thing with teaching PPL's is that they need: 1. instrument time and 2. presolo guys need stalls and steepturns and such.

Anytime it would fog in I would be able to justify launching around 90% of the time. I would file local IFR, get on top and cancel. We would do a full lesson of manuevers, and then reopen and ILS it back in.

I still consider that nothing is more invaluable than a PPL seeing the soup for real instead of a hood. My first time in a cloud was when I was almost done with my instrument rating. The difference between being able to cheat a bit out of your peripheral and having no choice but to trust your instruments fully is astounding.

I think in the end all of my PPL students ended up having at least some actual in their books....
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Agreed, when conditions permit I'll do the same with Pvt. students and I will try and get my instrument students to fly in actual as much as I can during their training. The midwest is good for actual if you are smart about it. This time of year it can be tough though.
 
Rudabega said:
Don't assume all CFII's have actual experience either, I think this rule needs to be changed..
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Statement of the day. I agree 110% with that. I know CFIIs that have 0 actual and are very very nervous going into anything actual. I know of one who wouldn't even complete a flight on a clear day because it was too hazy (forward vis was like 3 miles). I'd like to get my CFII this summer. Hoping to add to my actual column this spring\summer.
 
I live in Virginia, so location plays a part, but I picked up about 50 hours of actual over the last year. It really is just all about looking for it. When the weather is there, find a student who wants to go. When you are teaching instrument students go find it and stay in it. Just make sure you are prepared to teach in it if you haven't really been in the clouds.
 
I was my CFII's first student in actual... he doesn't know this, but probably will now if he reads this post, but I could he was nervous about it the first time we went in the clouds on our long IFR XC. By the end of my Instrument training, I could tell he was more comfortable with it. The only downside is that we train in Michigan so clouds+winter+Michigan = ice ice baby. Have to wait until Springtime!
 
mtsu_av8er said:
Wa-wa-what?

What constitutes the proper equipment? Why can't you fly in IMC in Ohio in a Skyhawk that's simply IFR equipped?
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We have gremlins in the clouds that get very clingy during the winter.

There is good reason why NASA bases its icing research out of the Cleveland area.
 
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