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Ian J said:
IF I ever get into airline flying anyone can feel free to beat me with a stick if I ever claim I know how an airline should be run.
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I'd say I'll hold you to it, but I know you wouldn't spew crap like that anyways.

And those who do, won't make a similar offer.

:)
 
Ian J said:
You can really do whatever the heck you want when you're single pilot. Just ask Lloyd!
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In Lloyd's case, I'm not sure I wanna know.

Being naked and alone is like the tree falling in the woods. If nobody sees, who cares?

>shrugs<

I did alot of single pilot time building. I got bored. Used to try to cycle runway lights from cruise altitudes.
 
surreal1221 said:
You're right Ford.

I have my thoughts on how an airline could return themselves to making profits. $1 here, $5 here, $10 here. . .along with a number of other steps.

I don't think it's THAT difficult.
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Not that difficult? Then why, in your opinion, don't they just raise their prices?
 
Clearly Steve they're too stupid to figure that part out :) I mean they only have degrees (some advanced) from accredited universities... ;)
 
I am just going to make myself as marketable as possible. CFI until ATP mins (already sitting on 1200 or so hours), I have a BS degree, and am going to get as much multi-PIC as possible in the next 2 years at a 135 op.
 
SteveC said:
Not that difficult? Then why, in your opinion, don't they just raise their prices?
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My opinion is simple. I feel, as a member of the aviation industry, that these airlines think that their customer base will just DRY up the moment they raise fares.

I, disagree with that.

But because of that fear, and their oh so great education from accredited universities they must stay inside the box.

But don't worry Steve, I don't deal with finances and economics - so as has been said already it is merely my opinion. I just fly the planes.

Chris_Ford said:
Clearly Steve they're too stupid to figure that part out I mean they only have degrees (some advanced) from accredited universities...
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Clearly Chris. . .Clearly.

I don't think I have ever once called anyone stupid. I have my opinion on how these companies can really develop a profit. It is not JUST about raising fares, but you will see a larger return on your product if you increase the cost to the consumer rather than chop the knees off of your labor force. This goes for any industry.

But yes, while I do not hold an economics or finance, or aviation management degree my opinion on this matter will never even register in your brain.
 
Well I can't argue with someone who has no facts to back up his argument, so I guess you win? You're wrong, but you win. How's that for a stalemate.
 
Chris,

People hold opinions, with or without facts.

I don't operate in the financial sector. So does that mean that I can not provide any opinion on the matter?

I suppose in your world that would be how you would operate. Do you never comment on a subject that your degree does not cover? Or are you the true renaissance man and can comment on any and everything?

If you insist on taking your ball and going home, fine bud. I just don't see what the big deal is for someone to hold an opinion.
 
surreal1221 said:
Chris,

People hold opinions, with or without facts.

I don't operate in the financial sector. So does that mean that I can not provide any opinion on the matter?

I suppose in your world that would be how you would operate. Do you never comment on a subject that your degree does not cover? Or are you the true renaissance man and can comment on any and everything?

If you insist on taking your ball and going home, fine bud. I just don't see what the big deal is for someone to hold an opinion.
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You're entitled to your opinion, but I'm saying that 1) Airlines have tried the raising prices game [in 2000], and it didn't work. 2) I'm good friends with airline pricers and I know how they work. I'm providing you with empirical data and you're disregarding it.

I'm not taking my ball and going home. I've proven everything I can and you're too stubborn to understand.
 
Chris, I understand exactly what you are saying. No worries there comrade. I just have provided an opinion, and I certainly didn't think it was going to be some huge issue.

I'm sorry if you think that I'm attacking your buddies who are pricers. They have their system, and they use it to extract the most that they can - good on them.

Can we hug it out?

EatSleepFly said:
Is there anything you don't happen to have an opinion about? Just curious.
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Sure. Lots of things. Growing up in an airline family (albeit, I don't have friends who are airline pricers) I've seen pretty much every area of the airline industry, except for cabin cleaning and catering.
 
Oh look, another contest.... :)

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surreal1221 said:
Chris,

People hold opinions, with or without facts.

I don't operate in the financial sector. So does that mean that I can not provide any opinion on the matter?
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You are certainly entitled to your opinion, with or without good reason. Just be aware that ill-informed or uneducated opinions are often questioned, sometimes even by people that do know what they are talking about . That's the other half of the *freedom-to-hold-whatever-opinion-I-want* equation. If someone wants to hold an opinion without having any reality based information to back it up, they certainly shouldn't feel put out if their opinion is not taken seriously.

That's just my opinion, of course.

:D
 
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