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Cherokee_Cruiser said:
No. I'm like you (me on the forum and me in a professional environment are mutually exclusive).

I don't ask about their training records obviously. I don't even bring up politics unless they bring it. And I usually don't talk news unless something big happened that day.
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Cool. Remember Raven is marketing to clients. We all get outraged when we see someone with a potentially questionable background gets hired, but to every Tom, Dick and Harry toiling away flying that thinks they don't have a chance sees this and says: "Take all my money!"

How we feel about it is inconsequential because we're not the target demographic which they're reaching out to.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Meh. My younger years, I’d jump on this and argue more. I don’t GAF now. You don’t work in the industry anymore.
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Translation: “I don’t have any data. In fact, I don’t even really know what that means. So I’m just gonna pretend I’m above all this, attack you personally, and then go right back to pulling stuff out of my ass.”

At least you’re consistent.
 
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SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
Translation: “I don’t have any data. In fact, I don’t even really know what means. So I’m just gonna pretend I’m above all this, attack you personally, and then go right back to pulling stuff out of my ass.”

At least you’re consistent.
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I haven’t attacked you personally. That would be like me telling you that you are a womanizer based on your religion. Or whatever BS statement you made. That’s your specialty, I’ll leave you to that.
 
SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
Again, present your data that supports this opinion. Not anecdotes. Data.
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To be fair, that data would be impossible to deliver. There won’t be much data on crashes which didn’t happen, unless you’re on an ERC or something. It’s also not debatable that there have been several high profile 121 accidents in which one or both (767) pilots had multiple checkride failures.

Note that I’m not disagreeing with your argument that there’s no data to prove that checkride failure pilots are worse than people with clean records; I’m just pointing out that what you’re asking CC to produce can’t be produced, and I suspect you know this.
 
mwflyer said:
My counter to the multi checkride failure is always MESA. They supposedly scrape the bottom of the barrel for candidates, yet they‘ve never put one into the dirt.
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At my virtual airline, the worst 121 pilots are from Mesa. No offense.

Best: Skywest/ExpressJet and Horizon tied close second place.

But nothing is worse than a Corpie.
 
roundout said:
To be fair, that data would be impossible to deliver. There won’t be much data on crashes which didn’t happen
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That‘s not how data works. All you need are accident rates per capita segmented by checkride failures.

Note that I’m not disagreeing with your argument that there’s no data to prove that checkride failure pilots are worse than people with clean records; I’m just pointing out that what you’re asking CC to produce can’t be produced, and I suspect you know this.
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Of course I know that he doesn’t have any data and can’t produce it! That’s the whole point. He’s drawing conclusions and wanting to implement policy without the support of any data to back it up. That’s the entire problem.
 
Why don't medical students garner the same sentiments as pilots in terms of failure? Resident here this morning on his internal medicine rotation said he failed his MCAT twice and his USMLE exam once already and that he's not looking forward to his USMLE at the end of this year.

He wants to be a cardiologist.

He should be called into the office and drummed out immediately, right? After three failures.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
At my virtual airline, the worst 121 pilots are from Mesa. No offense.

Best: Skywest/ExpressJet and Horizon tied close second place.

But nothing is worse than a Corpie.
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I'm really amazed you don't work in the AS checking department and at the same time I'm also relieved you don't.

But please: DO GO ON!

You just don't disappoint! Please continue. I have a new favorite thing! Watching you get absolutely dragged for saying stupid stuff like this!
 
We don't kink shame here!

He does have elements of Chuck Rhoades from "Billions"during his 'after hours activities" though.
 
SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
That‘s not how data works. All you need are accident rates per capita segmented by checkride failures.



Of course I know that he doesn’t have any data and can’t produce it! That’s the whole point. He’s drawing conclusions and wanting to implement policy without the support of any data to back it up. That’s the entire problem.
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Hey, I’m all for it. Public data for every pilot and their checkride record. Sign me up! I’d stalk that even more than google. :)
 
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