GA Security

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There is little or no need for GA security.

At GA airports you pretty much know everyone around you, hence any stranger would stick out like a sore thumb.

And the fellow in Tampa proved you can't do a whole lot of damage with a light aircraft anyway.

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What about if that guy crashed into a bus filled with elementery school kids? or a park?

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And what about the thousands of SUVs, or rental trucks or motorhomes that could do the EXACT same thing? Should we search every person who wants to drive? Maybe have a TSA agent in eavh driveway/garage/parking lot to search every driver before they get behind the wheel?

On a side note, you'd have to be a damned skilled pilot to hit a moving school bus.

The point is, yes there is a risk with GA – everything has a risk – but there are other greater risks out there that no one is addressing or even acknowledging yet rules and restrictions are unproportionately being lumped on GA just because people are scared of those "flying machines."

The amout of money, preparation and time involved with pulling off even a basic kamikazi attack with a light GA airplane is far more costly than teaching some 16-year old to drive a car, shoot a rifle from a tower, strap a bang-stick to his @$$ or any of the other countless bad things someone could do. But do we see any security at train depots? Shipping ports? Bus services? No.

Another point, here, cars can be loaded down with stuff until they only move a few MPH whereas an aircraft has a FINITE amount of weight it can carry before it simply will not fly.

For example my Hyundai Accent (a VERY small, four-door compact) has a GVW of 3,200lbs. I can stuff that thing full of bad things and leave just enough room for me to drive and it'll still move. Now, our PA-23 Apache has a GW of 3,800 lbs. Sure I can over load it but at some point it won't fly. Now look at the weights there and think about it for a minute. A COMPACT car weighs almost as much as a light twin GA aircraft. Yet, no one, is concerned about the millions of vehicles driving around out on the roads. yet almost everyone is scared of and wants to limit GA to the point it goes exctinct.

Where is the proportionate risk assesment in this picture? It doesn't exist.
 
my comment was directed to corperate pilots

yet again people might not be understanding me...im saying that there is a risk of taking pax in a corperate jet, IMO even more of a risk than commercial travel. The PAX dont have to go through security does anyone else see this? all it takes is a rich terriorist to buy 20 hours in a G-V to make a point. god forbid

All you guys talking about small aircraft are right
 
Have any other major flight restrictions been placed upon GA outside of the D.C. area? I know Meigs was bulldozed. Any other notable ones?
 
They are a bit ignorant towards Meigs. If someone really wanted to crash into those buildings they could do it just as well from midway and o'hare. What are they going to do, bulldoze o'hare?
 
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Is flight training really possible within the ADIZ?

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I think all training flights start in the ADIZ but fly out of it to do manuevers and such...I just spoke with a CFI in GAI and he said its really not a big deal to get in and out
 
If its not a big deal, then why has it been reported that a lot of flight schools been going out of business in the dc area? I'm not intending this to be sarcastic, I'm curious.
 
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But should anyone be allowed to go on the ramp and take pictures of airplanes? I do that and it is awesome, but is it also safe?

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Yes.

Last time I checked, we live in America. Now, the America I want to live in -- and hope I still do live in -- allows us to do pretty much what we want unless doing that will harm others.

So, let's see. I shoot a few pictures of some planes coming in to land at DCA. Who got hurt? Nobody.

So I should be allowed to do it.
 
Yes, it is. If you're on the fringe of it, like at GAI, they want you to exit it and then do your training. When I flew out of one of the DC3, I just exited the FRZ and then did my stuff and it was all good.

Why is it a problem? It's not a huge problem if you're one of the airports in the ADIZ.

For the airports in the FRZ, what kills them is that you have to jump through all sorts of hoops to be allowed to fly out of there. We're not talking about just getting a squawk from ATC. We're talking about the background check, the fingerprinting, the interview at the FSDO.

And then of course, that's only good if you're a pilot who is based there. Transients are not allowed.

So that means a good chunk of the business that you got pre September 11 just went bye bye.
 
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