G1000 Partial Panel Question

UIPilot45X

UIPilot45X

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Hi Guys,

I just recently passed my oral exam for my CFI/I Reinstatement. Took about 3 hours and went pretty smoothly. We had to defer the flight for another time. During the oral, the DPE indicated that I'd be doing "Timed Turns To Magnetic Compass Headings". That's not a big deal...but I learned on all steam gauges at my University about 10 years ago. I chose to do the reinstatement in the G1000 to challenge myself to learn a new system and also because they seem more common in the training environment now-a-days.

The way it was presented to me in the past was I would have my AI and DG covered up to simulate partial panel. I would still have my turn coordinator to set my bank angle to standard rate, start my time and watch the mag compass to get to my desired heading.

In the case of a G1000 system...if my DG/CDI is covered up....it also covers up my standard rate turn indicator (the little magenta line that swings left or right directly above the DG). If that's gone there is no real accurate way of holding a nice standard rate turn. I mean, you could do a little mental math (true airspeed, drop the last number, divide by two and add to 10) to get close to my standard rate turn....which in most cases in a C172 is about 15 degrees of bank. But, in that scenario it would be more practical just to do a compass turn and remember to use your UNOS acronym when looking at the mag compass.

I would imagine that once we go to reversionary mode, he's going to use post it notes or something to cover up the attitude indicator and DG...but I'm curious how the timed turn is tested with G1000 systems? Am I over thinking this? Any advise would be appreciated.

Thanks.
 
If C172, 100 knots and 15 degrees bank will get you standard rate. I taught that method even with the rate of turn indicator functioning, because it will make your flying nice and smooth. FYI, the G1000 rate instrument is not a turn coordinator, only presents rate of turn, not rate of roll.
 
gotWXdagain said:
If C172, 100 knots and 15 degrees bank will get you standard rate. I taught that method even with the rate of turn indicator functioning, because it will make your flying nice and smooth. FYI, the G1000 rate instrument is not a turn coordinator, only presents rate of turn, not rate of roll.
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Thanks for your response. That's what I figured. I like the G1000...but I'm happy I learned on a six pack before I transitioned to glass panel.
 
You might find this Garmin G1000 Guide for Designated Pilot Examiners & Certified Flight Instructors helpful. You'll notice the link is the FAA site, not Garmin's.

I would imagine that once we go to reversionary mode, he's going to use post it notes or something to cover up the attitude indicator and DG...but I'm curious how the timed turn is tested with G1000 systems? Am I over thinking this? Any advise would be appreciated.
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How difficult is a standard rate turn with a regular round dial backup attitude indicator? I bet without over-thinking it you'll do far better than you did with the turn and bank one.
 
On the older g1000's if you removed the PFD, there was a steam gauge turn coordinator in there for the autopilot....not that you should removed the screen or anything....just thought that was interesting.
 
abolton1 said:
On the older g1000's if you removed the PFD, there was a steam gauge turn coordinator in there for the autopilot....not that you should removed the screen or anything....just thought that was interesting.
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That was the case on the Twin Stars as well where I flew. The Turn Coordinator was mounted directly behind the MFD.
 
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