Future of XJT?

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TallFlyer

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Just curious how the short trains and the trip7s of the world (and anyone else that works there) see the future of XJT in the light of DAL and future United scope. APC mentions a 10 year agreement with United for 200+ airframes; 10 years from when? The rumots I see predict a lot of hiring this year on the ERJ side but I'm curious what the fleet looks like in the future. What's the possible career progression look like for a new hire these days?
 
My guess is that (at least the ERJ side) will see a net reduction of airframes over the next 5 years with 145s being replaced for larger RJs allowed under United's recently negotiated contract.

The reduction in total crews needed will be offset by a large exodus of pilots to Majors during a similar time frame. Most of the movement in the list will be from attrition, not growth in the company. (Which is fine, movement is movement).

A joint contract while not guaranteed will probably be finished within the next year at which point we'll have a framework for combining the two companies and seniority lists allowing for movement between airframes and bases.
 
I agree with my most learned colleague, and I think his analysis is spot on.

Consider that there is hiring on the ERJ side for the rest of the year, and there's no growth. The sucking sound is getting louder and louder.
 
It seems like there's no growth anywhere at the regionals these days save RAH. That's definitely a good thing for the industry as a whole but for a guy looking to get in now it makes the choices difficult.

From what you guys are saying it sounds like a guy hired at XJT today is just going to stay in the bottom 20% of the (one!) list until the shrinkage stops, and that's only if he's lucky enough that the exodus is faster than the shrinkage.
 
TallFlyer said:
It seems like there's no growth anywhere at the regionals these days save RAH. That's definitely a good thing for the industry as a whole but for a guy looking to get in now it makes the choices difficult.

From what you guys are saying it sounds like a guy hired at XJT today is just going to stay in the bottom 20% of the (one!) list until the shrinkage stops, and that's only if he's lucky enough that the exodus is faster than the shrinkage.
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I will warn you of one thing, and it's an issue that many folks on JC fail to grasp.

If you don't put your hat into the ring, you're not going to have the chance to worry about these issues. Unless you get a call for a class date, this is little more than an academic discussion. Don't get dragged into the, "Where is the PERFECT place to go to" discussion, even with yourself, without having actual class dates sitting in front of you.

Quite frankly, you may not get many choices. During the hiring craze of 2007, I couldn't get a call from Pinnacle or Republic. Why? I have no idea, but I only interviewed at Eagle and my current company. I have a friend who is in class at XJT and couldn't get a call from anywhere else, even though they were entirely qualified to work at any regional.

So, apply, and then worry. XJT has some fantastic people, and a reasonable contract. That, to me, means a lot.
 
Oh I get the speculative nature of the exercise, and I have applied to everyone and will get some face time with recruiters tomorrow. I've also got an interview with Air Whisky next week.

Ultimately I'm looking for somewhere to spend the next 5 years living in base, having a good QOL, and finishing a degree. Perhaps I'm doing a little too much homework right now, but I'd rather too much than too little.
 
Expressjet isn't a bad place to get stuck. Its been pretty decent to me on the CRJ side.

Stagnation is frustrating, but stagnation also is about as good as it gets nowadays.

It can be a frustrating place to work, but you have to just unplug from everything and go with the flow. If the company wants to fix something, ti will, but in most cases its not cost effective for them to do so, so it won't.

For being the largest regional airline in the world, it sure doesn't run like it. Our performance scares me lately, but I think its also a calculated move by management, trying to find the L/D max of putting money into the operation vs getting rewards from mainline "partners", usually on the backs of the front line employees.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
For being the largest regional airline in the world, it sure doesn't run like it. Our performance scares me lately, but I think its also a calculated move by management, trying to find the L/D max of putting money into the operation vs getting rewards from mainline "partners", usually on the backs of the front line employees.
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Yea, what is going on with the DFW operation. We are having to cover 25%-30% of your operation everyday. Trip7 do you know anything? surreal1221?
 
Yea, it is only 40 turns or so a day, but still when we are having to cover 10-15. You would think someone either at AMR or XJT would see a problem with that and try to fix it.
 
Found out today that (for the AMR ops) a plane was damaged by a ground crew, and required it to be out of service for at least 5 days for repairs. Even having to have someone from Bombardier come down there to evaluate the damage.
 
89-LX said:
Found out today that (for the AMR ops) a plane was damaged by a ground crew, and required it to be out of service for at least 5 days for repairs. Even having to have someone from Bombardier come down there to evaluate the damage.
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Don't tell me...was it in Baton Rouge? ;) :D

("Certain stations--like BTR...")
 
Gonzo said:
Yea, what is going on with the DFW operation. We are having to cover 25%-30% of your operation everyday. Trip7 do you know anything? surreal1221?
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Yes, hi. Good morning everyone.

As far as the issues in DFW, we are one aircraft down due to a maintenance issue that will take until August 31st to complete repair. Since we lack any spares in that operation, being an aircraft down means we are having to offload those block hours to someone else.

I can't say whether the 25-30% is just for that one aircraft, but I wouldn't be surprised if its closer to the 8-10% range. I don't know the exact block hour numbers lost due to the offloading, nor do I know our total block hour size in DFW to really give a good %. That said, we operate I think 12 or 13, so now down to 11 or 12 airworthy airplanes. Yeah, it's gonna hurt when one sits idle for four months.
 
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