Forbes Article on Regional Pilot Pay vs McDonalds Pay

[desertdog71]

I see both sides of this. I do think that DirtyTrucker needs to change his handle though - it's dishonest. He's a regional guy now - spikey hair, backpack, earbuds, and all else that goes with it. However, if he called himself "DirtyRJ Pilot" it wouldn't differentiate - aren't they all dirty? My suggestion:

Pigpen.

I can't even grow spikey hair anymore. Besides, as long as I'm waking up in my truck and getting paid to haul freight, I'm still a trucker so another week at least.

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[desertdog71]

I see both sides of this. I do think that DirtyTrucker needs to change his handle though - it's dishonest. He's a regional guy now - spikey hair, backpack, earbuds, and all else that goes with it. However, if he called himself "DirtyRJ Pilot" it wouldn't differentiate - aren't they all dirty? My suggestion:

Pigpen.

I am open to other suggestions though.

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[Bumblebee]

I can't even grow spikey hair anymore. Besides, as long as I'm waking up in my truck and getting paid to haul freight, I'm still a trucker so another week at least.

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I woke up in my camper and am going to haul freight...am I a trucker, or just PWT?

 

[jskibo]

I woke up in my camper and am going to haul freight...am I a trucker, or just PWT?

Shiny Camper Syndrome

 

[amorris311]

Let me be the one to answer your question - no! The degree did not make you smarter.

ZING!

You walked into it dork - had to take the shot.

Oh I don't disagree one bit. Although I would do it all over again. I had a great time and had many opportunities because of my time in college.

 

[zmiller4]

The best arguments that I've seen seem to either be:
Get a college degree, because a college degree is required, so you should get a degree.
If you had a college degree, you'd know what makes having a degree different
Going to college shows that you can follow the rules
Going to college is statistically proven to result in better employees.

With the exception of #3, I think that those are all pretty legitimate arguments.

The thing is, I've examined the units that remain in my "college education", and I've come to the conclusion that not a single one of them effects any net change to my level of knowledge, ability to finish things, intangibles, etc.

You may not have any added knowledge from taking the remaining units, but you don't think that finishing your degree would at least demonstrate your ability to complete what you've started?

The only significant difference that I can see between myself now and myself at the end of my education (Which I'll finish just because it's there...) is that I'll be out many tens of thousands of dollars that I could have invested, used to buy an airplane, used to fly, or any number of other things.

See above...you'll also have a demonstrated ability to set a goal and accomplish it. You may well have that from other areas of your life as well, but finishing up will certainly add to it.

My observations indicate that there's an awful lot of confirmation bias amongst college grads.

Confirmation bias? Certainly possible. But I think there's an similar level of irrational denial of the benefits of higher education amongst those who didn't go.

The point that I'm trying to make here, to sum it up, is that you must give me a better reason for getting a degree than "the job requires a degree." We're talking about a massive capital expenditure here, and years of busywork ... tautology does not pass due diligence. (I could probably sum up my entire comment in that one line)

If the job you want requires a degree, I fail to see how that isn't a completely legitimate reason. If you're happy with where you are without one, then of course you don't need one.

I'm not wholly sure I'd want to work for a company where my contributions were valued only as a cog...

That's certainly your prerogative; I wouldn't want to work for someone I believed arbitrarily selected employees.

You know what else works as a sieve?

Hiring only people whose last names begin with A, F, J, N, R, S, T, and Z.

That's a ridiculous comparison. Are you actually comparing the predictive qualities of a 4-year degree to arbitrary alphabet-based selection?

We all make choices, and it's up to the individual to determine what's best for them. I bypassed upgrades at my airline to maintain my quality of life, but now I have no turbine PIC. There were definitely a [very few] number of captains that I flew with who I'm pretty sure would be less effective crew members at a major than me, but I'm not going to complain that entry requirements are unfair or arbitrary. They made their choices, I made mine, and I'm going to live with it.

 

[Bumblebee]

So I am now officially a freight dawg. (Is there a sticker or a medal or something...what about a cookie?)

You guys work hard. (I knew this intellectually, but now I know it physically as well) I looked at the packages and the airplane and thought, there's no freakin' way. But fortunately I have been a musician all my life and know how to pack...it was to the gills. Photos to follow.

 

[cmill]

As much as I've railed against college, I've been thinking about going back to finish. Not for the degree though, just to pick up women girls. I always find myself saying "if I knew then what I know now..." so, why not go back and apply what I know now to what I wish I knew then?
At the very least I would get a piece of paper that I could hang on my wall for the rest of my life. I think It's much more likely that I would end up with something else that would stick with me for the rest of my life, though.