For Those in the D.C., BWI, Gaithersburg, Manassas Area...

jwp_145

jwp_145

GhostRider in the Sky
I know I've asked this elevendybillion times, but if you were new to the area, and had competitive times, where would you start looking for an instructing job IN ANY CAPACITY? it doesn't matter if it is part time or full time, I just need a push into the right direction. 1400TT/200ME, CFI/CFII/MEI, 4 year degree, college classroom teaching experience, graphic designer :)

I'd love to work at a flight college as opposed to a flight school, but we can all dream.

Mods, please don't burn me for posting this :)
 
Re: For Those in the D.C., BWI, Gaithersburg, Manassas Area.

That's amazing that you have exactly 1,400 total and 200 ME! :laff:
 
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How about Averett in Danville?
 
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After living in that area several times over the last 10 years, I'd say that Don Rob's outfit at JYO has the best reputation. I don't know if PT is an option, though. Now that they have the corridor set up, I'd think things were better.
 
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deadstick said:
After living in that area several times over the last 10 years, I'd say that Don Rob's outfit at JYO has the best reputation. I don't know if PT is an option, though. Now that they have the corridor set up, I'd think things were better.
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I'm sorry, I gave the wrong impression in what I originally typed.... if the instructing jobs around here are only part time, I can afford that... NATURALLY I'd LOVE full time, but if part time is all that is around I'd take it.
 
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deadstick said:
After living in that area several times over the last 10 years, I'd say that Don Rob's outfit at JYO has the best reputation. I don't know if PT is an option, though. Now that they have the corridor set up, I'd think things were better.
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I worked for Av-ED out of KOKV and only did about 30 hours of dual in 3 months. I was full-time also. Other then no work Av-ED was a great place to work for and I enjoyed my time there. I have 0 experience with the JYO operation though.
 
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Murdoughnut said:
That's amazing that you have exactly 1,400 total and 200 ME! :laff:
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If giving you the exact time total down to the minute would help me get a job I'd gladly do it, but I wasn't going to total up the last page just for a post on a thread.... generals will work fine.

:cool:
 
Re: For Those in the D.C., BWI, Gaithersburg, Manassas Area.

Where exactly are you in the area? Traffic around here is horrendous, if you were up in Baltimore, I wouldnt suggest driving to Manassas everyday.

Manassas has 3 schools. Aviation Adventures, Manassas Aviation, and Dulles Aviation.

Aviation Adventures is working on getting 141. They have some nice planes, everything from a 152 to Cessna 400. They are getting some type of sim with motion, they run ground schools for the Cessna 400, and I recently got an email from them asking around about anyone interested in the Cessna Mustang, apparently they want to become a licensed trainer on it. My experience with the owner was decent, but he tends to like guys that he has trained over others.

Manassas Aviation and Dulles Aviation are both part 141. Both of them run the Marine IFS program. I instructed out at Manassas Aviation. Every few weeks a new group of Marines is brought in for 20 hours of dual. So at least your guaranteed a few guys. I dont know if they are actively hiring anymore though. Last guy from here that went to work there didnt get any Marines at first, I believe it was mainly because he was a brand new CFI and very young and they wanted him to gain some experience first. But with your qualifications its anyones guess.
 
Re: For Those in the D.C., BWI, Gaithersburg, Manassas Area.

I live in downtown NW D.C.
 
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I know that Montgomery Aviation at GAI has been around for a long time. I'm not sure if they are hiring.

Or, if you want, you can sign up for one of the flying clubs there, and sign up as an instructor. They need 'em.
 
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tonyw said:
I know that Montgomery Aviation at GAI has been around for a long time. I'm not sure if they are hiring.

Or, if you want, you can sign up for one of the flying clubs there, and sign up as an instructor. They need 'em.
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I wouldnt go to Montgomery Aviation. They have too many instructors working with too few students. Also, when I was working for them I found out some disturbing stuff about their maintenance practices and had some disturbing maintenance issues with them (which led to me quitting).

As far as Montgomery County Airpark is concerned, you have a good number of flying clubs: TSS, Congressional, Flying Octopus etc... try joining, their planes are always flying.
 
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I've never had any experience with a flying club... how does one go about joining one, or even finding out about the particulars?
 
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jwp_145 said:
I've never had any experience with a flying club... how does one go about joining one, or even finding out about the particulars?
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I dont know as I have never joined one but Google is always a wonderful place to start.

Search for flying clubs in maryland.
 
Re: For Those in the D.C., BWI, Gaithersburg, Manassas Area.

FWIW, as a student i had a great experience with the flight school (trident air) at W29 (bay bridge airport).

The instructor that I worked with told me that they had a sweet deal going on since they were the designated flight school for the naval academy (the owner is an academy grad). Their job was to get the midshipmen to solo level before they went down to pensacola.....talk about a steady job.
 
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deadstick said:
After living in that area several times over the last 10 years, I'd say that Don Rob's outfit at JYO has the best reputation. I don't know if PT is an option, though. Now that they have the corridor set up, I'd think things were better.
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jhugz said:
I worked for Av-ED out of KOKV and only did about 30 hours of dual in 3 months. I was full-time also. Other then no work Av-ED was a great place to work for and I enjoyed my time there. I have 0 experience with the JYO operation though.
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One of my friends worked at Aviation Adventures about a year ago and she had a great time there. I don't have much detail about it, though.

I was at JYO for about 2 years and OKV for another 2, as a student. I can't give you an instructor's insight, but both places are great. JYO has more of a corporate feel to it, is a bit larger/nicer, and has more daily ops. OKV has more of a Mom/Pop feel to it, is smaller, and I never had an issue getting a plane reserved because of the fewer ops. Most of the instructors I knew there had second jobs.

Having just checked the website after writing that last paragraph, though, they haven't been hiring instructors since June. It's off and on with them, though. If it opens up, it's worth a look. You might also want to just head in one day to talk to everyone. Sometimes when a company says they aren't hiring it's just because they don't actively need someone.
 
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Yeah I am planning on getting gussied up and just going to every flight school I can find and meeting the people... At the moment I'm building a plan of where to go and who to talk to... I've only been in town for 5 days though.
 
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v1valarob said:
Aviation Adventures is working on getting 141. They have some nice planes, everything from a 152 to Cessna 400. They are getting some type of sim with motion, they run ground schools for the Cessna 400, and I recently got an email from them asking around about anyone interested in the Cessna Mustang, apparently they want to become a licensed trainer on it. My experience with the owner was decent, but he tends to like guys that he has trained over others. .
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Aviation Adventures has two Redbird Simulators, one at JYO and one at HEF. They've been online since June. Last week the owner told me to expect 141 certification this fall.

PM me if you'd like any other details about Aviation Adventures.
 
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If you're heading to AvEd:
JYO - you'll probably actually get to talk to Dr.Robb himself, maybe DeCandia
OKV - Tom Scott if he's not up flying

All of them are great guys. Dr.Robb is just a smart guy - knows his stuff. When I took my final stage with him, I ended up taking 3 full pages of notes and I print very small. With all of those notes I was pretty sure I failed, but he said I did well. DeCandia's about the same, but not as quiet and actually pretty hilarious. Scott can seem standoffish, but if you appreciate dry humour, you'll get along just fine.
 
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aviation adventures is a good place. i did my private pilot there and am working on my instructor ratings with them. the owner knows his stuff and the instructors there do a good job in making sure you are prepared. they have locations at khef and kjyo with both locations having the full motion sims (good for getting current quickly and for initial IFR training) and about the same amount of planes at each place. The mix is mostly newer model 172 R/S's a few 70's 80's 172's (these are in really good condition, they have two arrows, three multi-engine planes (A DA-42 at JYO). They use the Cessna Pilot Center cirriculum which is awesome as it allows the student to do a good chunk of ground school at home w/ "John and Martha" at their own pace and people who use it tend to move through at a good pace, even when flying once/twice a week. They have pre-checkride stage checks (even for part 61) where you fly with the owner at HEF or the head guy at JYO which does a good job at making sure the checkride is a non-event.

They are about to get 141 certification. Mx is top notch and they are good about fixing squawks. Business there is doing good (DC is to a certain extent recession resistant). You do have to take an online SFRA course (its open book) before operating from JYO or HEF. Its easy stuff to deal with as you just file a quick flight plan, make sure you have an appropriate code, stay out of the class B and communicate with ATC when you are inside the SFRA.
 
Re: For Those in the D.C., BWI, Gaithersburg, Manassas Area.

Thanks for the suggestions guys, I'm definitely building a list of places to go! Sure glad the wifee understands it may take a while!
 
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