For All of you Skeptics...

[EatSleepFly]

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Anyway, if you can get all this stuff on the first try, kudos to you, but in my experience not one person has ever gotten the approach right without some explination

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I'd say if you can't get all that on the first try, you shouldn't even be a candidate for any professional flying job...except maybe banner towing, skydiver flying, or instructing private students.

 

[woodreau]

Stats for the Spring 2005 PACE class:

26 enrolled in PACE Jan 2005
21 completed
21 interviewed
18 hired
3 not hired
1 terminated (before ground school started for reasons wheelsup described)
17 in ground school

Equipment breakdown:
1 - DHC-8
11 - CRJ-200/700/900 (mostly) / ERJ
5 - B1900D

 

[Tazman282]

Sorry it took so long to get back to this thread, I have been really busy with ground school and when I am not in class, studying, I am sleeping. I honestly couldn't imagine how someone with no 121 operational skills, saying sim or system knowledge would ever get through this course. We study two systems a day and are expected to know it the next day cold. It is funny how the Capt upgrades are struggling with the systems and they ask all the san juaners to explain it to them. I mean it is a whole lot easier the second time around for us.

To answer one of the questions I was offered the 1900 first but had airline tickets home already because Chris Bender the recruiter stated that if we didn't get the call within two or three days the next ground school would be the 18th. So when she called she stated that we could defer if we needed to based on the time slot. They wanted us in Kansas in three days. So at first I told her that I would contact the airline and cancel my reservation and then call her back. I called her that day and left a message and started packing. Then next day she called me back and stated that if I was available for the 6th there was a spot for me on the 6th in PHX. She stated the reason was because they combined the 18th class that was supposed to be a dash class with this one. I ended up with the CRJ and am almost done with systems. It is still up in the air for the base but have been told it will be Philly or Dulles with a slight possibility of Chicago. There were a total of 34 MAPD students in this ground school. There were also 2 1900 upgrades and 2 street hires. So far everything is going good just trying to stay ahead. Well if you have any other questions about MAPD or ground school etc, just let me know.

David


Also, to set the record straight with the one that got fired, apparently he was offered the 1900 and accepted but then found out about the MAPD students like myself and called and complained and asked if there were any other spots available in PHX and she stated that they no longer needed him and that was it. He then went and spoke to the chief pilot of Air Midwest for a possible later ground school etc. I am not sure if he was offered one or not.

 

[Captain A]

I am a current student in the Pace Program here at MAPD and the new numbers just came in, apparently there were all but two that didn't make it. So even though Mesa isn't hiring off the street, they are still hiring from the program. I know there are a lot of you out there that don't believe in this program and think your money is better spent somewhere else, but I don't totally disagree with you. I did a lot of research myself after graduating from Embry Riddle and the numbers from this program speak for themselves. I could have gone on and instructed like most of my friends, all of which are still instructing and no where near the minimums yet. I am here looking to have an interview in the near future. Granted if this were to fall through, I would be a little bit behind. However, if you don't have an extensive criminal history, bad attitude and you are willing to put in the effort, why do you believe you would be in that 10%. The statistics speak for themselves. From my experience here at MAPD the ones that didn't get hired all had reasons. Some had bad criminal history that they didn't put down when they entered the program, they lied on their application, or they had really bad attitudes. I am not trying to sell you on this program but merely putting my experience out on the table for some of you to read. There is always going to be the ones that bash this program, but they are the ones that haven't attended or gotten hired by an airline. Good luck on your path to success, there are many different roads and none of them are better than the other.

David Dohring

Great another 260 hour wonder flying a jet for one of the worse airlines in the industry!